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Timing kick bass
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Conny
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Posted : Dec 16, 2013 10:24:18
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This weekend i´ve been trying to get some
tight kick bassline but with no sucess.I would be very thankful for any help on how i can improve my skills. |
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Upavas
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Posted : Dec 16, 2013 13:17
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knocz
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Posted : Dec 16, 2013 15:31
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Hmm post some examples of what you've got this weekedn so we can help you out 
Help us help you!
But, the tightest kick + basslines I can guaranty my track has is using sampling methods: make your kick and bass, render them to audio and manipulate the wave directly - like this you have absolute control on the timings.
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Dec 17, 2013 00:28
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On 2013-12-16 15:31, knocz wrote:
Hmm post some examples of what you've got this weekedn so we can help you out
Help us help you!
But, the tightest kick + basslines I can guaranty my track has is using sampling methods: make your kick and bass, render them to audio and manipulate the wave directly - like this you have absolute control on the timings.
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yeah, but it can be time consuming and sometimes it's not needed.
when worried about timing, you should get hold of an oscilloscope to see what's happening, like, for example, where the bass's decay is going to end, wheather or not it's interfering with the Kick drum, stuff like that.
it's just a very precious, fundamental tool if you ask me.
grab one here:
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2011/07/05/bpb-freeware-studio-best-free-oscilloscope-vstau-plugins/
another thing that's easily overlooked is the placement of actual notes. the grid is good, of course, but sometimes if you nudge (move horizontaly in little steps) your notes a bit, you'll find the right spot. that's important wheater you've sampled your instruments or not. next in line is the length of course. no need to have all notes the same size, a little variation can inject some groove - 'cause that's what we're talking about, right? some mileseconds can make a big difference, so nudge the notes just a couple notches either way while listening.
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Conny
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Posted : Dec 17, 2013 17:51
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I also manage to get tighter bass and kick while i render wav. Yes i moved around the notes a few milliseconds and it really makes a big difference, but still there is more work to be done.
Is it important that the attack of the kick and bass starts exact at the beginning of a bar? |
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knocz
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Posted : Dec 17, 2013 19:55
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On 2013-12-17 17:51, Conny wrote:
I also manage to get tighter bass and kick while i render wav. Yes i moved around the notes a few milliseconds and it really makes a big difference, but still there is more work to be done.
Is it important that the attack of the kick and bass starts exact at the beginning of a bar?
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Nop, not really, but if you want the "4 to the floor" then the distance between each kick must be equal (i.e., is one kick has a longer attack, they all have the longer attack).
Also, Imagine a real kick drum playing: it takes some time for the drummer to press the kick pedal, make the mallet move and the mallet hits the drum skin, so this is your natural attack.
You can set this timing as you like!
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