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MuckyPuh
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Posted : Apr 12, 2011 12:15:54
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Hey 
i was working on a remix this weekend while i came across a nice alternative to the cubase timestrech (its just soooo bad)
after not getting any good results with the timestrech of cubase i just put the loops into traktor and pitched them up from 127 to 136 BPM.
then i noticed that all the loops still fitt together - but the bassline (which i made with midi) was not in tune anymore.
luckely the sample calculator i found in this forum some time ago (http://mp3.deepsound.net/eng/samples_calculs.php)
could calculate the pitch differnce.
so now i just had to change all the loops -1,19 semitones and everything fitted together again
yej - just wanted to share my little victory over the timestrech funcion in cubase hehe
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makus
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Posted : Apr 12, 2011 12:39
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you applied pitch shift. you tempo changed too, right? you just applied another tool. and btw timestreatch in cubase is very good.
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MuckyPuh
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Posted : Apr 12, 2011 13:04
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well i just pitched it up with traktor - which is like pitching it up on a turn table (so the the tempo gets quicker and the pitch gets higher) and then i corrected the changed pitch back to normal so it still will be in tune of the original song.
(so how do you time streach in cubase?)
i always found the "audio - process - timestrech" funcion verry poor.. if u strech to much it will sound awefull and get verry bad quality
on the other hand the freewarp funcion is quite nice
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orgytime
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Posted : Apr 12, 2011 13:52
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On 2011-04-12 12:39, makus wrote:
you applied pitch shift. you tempo changed too, right? you just applied another tool. and btw timestreatch in cubase is very good.
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what setting do you use? because my cubase timestrech is failing big time (big artefacts).
but! when im messing with vari audio, its perfect.
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icedice
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Posted : Apr 12, 2011 14:14
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You need to go to file->preferences->Editing->audio and choose the MPEX4 algorithm and choose a high quality...
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psyraal
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Posted : Apr 12, 2011 14:20
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 12, 2011 14:43
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On 2011-04-12 14:20, NychroLogic wrote:
with any virtual dj you can make the samples faster or slower without changing the pitch
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Yes but there is one problem. Cubase does not always fit in the bpm with a virtual DJ transformed audio file.
And I agree. Cubase has a very good timestretch if you understand how to use it. Try the different settings. Some are better for drum loops other for instruments/vocals etc.
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Kolishin Methud
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Posted : Apr 13, 2011 01:57
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 13, 2011 02:04
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On 2011-04-13 01:57, Kolishin Methud wrote:
i would really like to learn this function as well ive never used a time stretch plugin before?
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It's not a plugin. It's a build in standard tool in Cubase located in:
Audio/Process/Time Stretch
There should be some tutorials in the Cubase forum:
http://www.cubase.net/phpbb2
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 13, 2011 02:08
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check for aplications that use izotope radius algoryhtm,i use it in logic and guys i have to say i got really wowed (quality of logic flex surprised me too).cubase is not bad thought but inferior imo . |
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MuckyPuh
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Posted : Apr 13, 2011 13:11
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 13, 2011 13:15
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Dont use mpex4. It makes the sound muddy.
Use "realtime/mix". It goes with almost anything.
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MuckyPuh
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Posted : Apr 13, 2011 13:24
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makus
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Posted : Apr 13, 2011 13:46
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Are we all referring to Cubase 5? Cause the updated the time stretch in 4 and 5 versions (if i am not mistaking).
I use a lot of MPEX4 algorithm, however I work with solo instruments or voice overs in 99% of cases. 'Solo musical' is my option.
Clients here are eager to bring more and more text into less and less time in advertisements. Many many times I applied it to voice material recorded. Probably 80% of all recorded voice material is being stretched, either to make it shorter of longer, to fit the phrases into necessary timing. 90 of 100 times timestretch sounds better on fast phrases than an actor trying to read that fast. However if you need to make the phrase slower, nothing beats natural human reading.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 13, 2011 13:55
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I use v. 5.
You are right about solo instruments and vocals. But for loops such as drums and percussion i found realtime/mix to be the best solution.
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