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Posted : May 10, 2011 20:33
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In comparision new album by former progressive trance producer Jurek Przezdziecki is superb. and it is full techno.
  "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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Posted : May 10, 2011 21:08
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On 2011-05-09 14:08, aden wrote:
What remains though: their live set should still kick some ass, as someone from Portugal testified, and I'm pretty sure that even today it still features some of their timeless classics, always retinterpreted in a stunning way.
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I heard it a year ago and it was indedd some Kick Ass music.
They played "In The Box" and a new version of Models On Cocaine.
I missed 1987 though... 
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Glen.C (Iboga Rec)
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Posted : May 11, 2011 01:55
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On 2011-04-15 15:49, aje wrote:
However, if you listen to this album in order the following stinkbombs totally break the flow
Blow My Horn
Balkan Tourist
Smorgasbord
Bazinga
All of these are just annoying as shit and because they all seem so forced with fake-funkyness, they take you out of the deep contemplative feeling created by the the tracks mentioned above.
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Hehehehe... you just named the tracks I've played most. (though I like the whole album) I have been thrashing them earlier this year in my sets and always got huge response. Coming from a goa background 15 years ago to prog trance, to now where I perefer tech house/techno... these tracks speak to me and at the events I play them at. Its all about context!!! 
I don't blame the guys from moving away from prog trance and trying new things in the studio... after all whats progressive about prog trance, its sounded the same (mostly) for 4 or 5 years. I think producers just like to try new things as it gets very dull in the studio otherwise.
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Posted : May 11, 2011 09:45
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On 2011-05-11 01:55, Glen.C (Iboga Rec) wrote:
I don't blame the guys from moving away from prog trance and trying new things in the studio... after all whats progressive about prog trance, its sounded the same (mostly) for 4 or 5 years. I think producers just like to try new things as it gets very dull in the studio otherwise.
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Thats exactly what i tryed to point out with my review. As i said, nobody can blame them for what they do...but...and thats for me a big but. They dont do anything new...thats your everyday techno to me. Very well produced yes...but nothing new here. Before they delivered alyways something really new within progg trance with every album...and knowing that they are one of the very few acts who can inovate and bring something new to the trance scene..its a pitty to see the just went into stereotype techno.
thats just my very subjective view of things...so no offence here www.myspace.com/motiondrive
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Posted : May 11, 2011 19:08
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On 2011-05-11 09:45, rumble pack / motion drive wrote:
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On 2011-05-11 01:55, Glen.C (Iboga Rec) wrote:
I don't blame the guys from moving away from prog trance and trying new things in the studio... after all whats progressive about prog trance, its sounded the same (mostly) for 4 or 5 years. I think producers just like to try new things as it gets very dull in the studio otherwise.
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Thats exactly what i tryed to point out with my review. As i said, nobody can blame them for what they do...but...and thats for me a big but. They dont do anything new...thats your everyday techno to me. Very well produced yes...but nothing new here. Before they delivered alyways something really new within progg trance with every album...and knowing that they are one of the very few acts who can inovate and bring something new to the trance scene..its a pitty to see the just went into stereotype techno.
thats just my very subjective view of things...so no offence here
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The more I listen to this album, the more I have to come to its defence. I agree with you, Rumble Pack, that some of these tracks are your everyday techno, but IMHO thats only the four tracks I mentioned above that Glen C. played with great success in his sets. And I totally believe him, because thats the kinda stuff the play in the more commercial techno clubs nowadays and people love that shit. But Aden also has a point, they would never play something like Balkan tourist in the "cool" techno clubs, thats two totally different audiences...
However, the "good tracks" on here are awesome, and they are not just copycat material. You can really feel the analogue retro touch on them and they still keep that trance sensibility that makes it stand-out from other club sounds.
Anyways, I really like this album now
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Beat Agency
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Posted : May 11, 2011 21:06
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But does this kind of music (I like some of it) have anything to do with a psytrance scene (even though the artists started out in the scene) any longer? And if no should such a release not be promoted in an appropriate scene instead of being promoted to the wrong people ?
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Posted : May 11, 2011 21:57
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On 2011-05-11 21:06, Beat Agency wrote:
But does this kind of music (I like some of it) have anything to do with a psytrance scene (even though the artists started out in the scene) any longer? And if no should such a release not be promoted in an appropriate scene instead of being promoted to the wrong people ?
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well, im not dooing any promotion here, we are just all talking about the new album from one of the greatest acts progressive trance scene ever had. I like this project alot, thats why i made a review. Im not dooing any promotion work...just sharing my thoughts...like everybody else i guess
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Anak
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Posted : May 11, 2011 21:59
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On 2011-05-11 21:06, Beat Agency wrote:
But does this kind of music (I like some of it) have anything to do with a psytrance scene (even though the artists started out in the scene) any longer? And if no should such a release not be promoted in an appropriate scene instead of being promoted to the wrong people ?
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Well, I don't know, but who said this isn't promoted in "the appropriate scene" as well? Besides that, you gotta admit that there's a lot of music promoted in the Psytrance scene that doesn't meet the manifesto as signed in the nineties. It's been years now that Minimal Techno, Electro-House, whatever has been promoted around here.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : May 11, 2011 22:28
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On 2011-05-11 21:06, Beat Agency wrote:
But does this kind of music (I like some of it) have anything to do with a psytrance scene (even though the artists started out in the scene) any longer? And if no should such a release not be promoted in an appropriate scene instead of being promoted to the wrong people ?
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Well, I don't know, but who said this isn't promoted in "the appropriate scene" as well? Besides that, you gotta admit that there's a lot of music promoted in the Psytrance scene that doesn't meet the manifesto as signed in the nineties. It's been years now that Minimal Techno, Electro-House, whatever has been promoted around here.
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That does not make it less weird. My point is not that the music is bad (as I said I like some of it myself). But when you call a party "psychedelic trance" it's kinda false marketing to book house, techno etc.
The same goes with the scene name. There is a reason why it's called psychedelic trance and why the house scene is called house etc.
Point is that in the end you got to maintain some sort of genre separation as long as you use a specific genre name to identify a scene. Otherwise where is the end? Why not also add R´n´B (it's also electronic music) or Gabba etc.
That's the point I am trying to get out.
If I decide to go to a psychedelic trance party I expect the artists and Djs to play psychedelic trance and not House. At the same time I would get very annoyed (and so would 100% of the people at the floor) if I had to listen to psytrance at a House party 
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Edward X
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Posted : May 12, 2011 00:28
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On 2011-05-09 14:08, aden wrote:
(...)What remains though: their live set should still kick some ass, as someone from Portugal testified, and I'm pretty sure that even today it still features some of their timeless classics, always retinterpreted in a stunning way.
And, yes there are some finely produced tracks in this new opus.(...)
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And we mustn`t forget that in Live performances many of the sounds come out of their fingers in Real Time.
This "great little detail" added to their music well produced make things very interesting at least.....
For me a kick ass is when an artist in live performance only makes play. It might be good music but not excelent for me.
Anyway, latter musics of Ticon results much better hearing Live with "some" tens/hundreds of people than heard at home.
It is my humble opinion. |
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Glen.C (Iboga Rec)
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Posted : May 18, 2011 03:59
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On 2011-05-11 01:55, Glen.C (Iboga Rec) wrote:
I don't blame the guys from moving away from prog trance and trying new things in the studio... after all whats progressive about prog trance, its sounded the same (mostly) for 4 or 5 years. I think producers just like to try new things as it gets very dull in the studio otherwise.
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Thats exactly what i tryed to point out with my review. As i said, nobody can blame them for what they do...but...and thats for me a big but. They dont do anything new...thats your everyday techno to me. Very well produced yes...but nothing new here. Before they delivered alyways something really new within progg trance with every album...and knowing that they are one of the very few acts who can inovate and bring something new to the trance scene..its a pitty to see the just went into stereotype techno.
thats just my very subjective view of things...so no offence here
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I just meant trying new stuff in the studio 'for them', rather than making a new trance track, making a house or techno track is a fresh experince for the producers.
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Posted : May 18, 2011 10:36
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bought it,heard it & broke it . . . .
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kazuku
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Posted : May 21, 2011 04:34
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On 2011-05-18 10:36, Ah-sid wrote:
bought it,heard it & broke it . . . .
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good work. Did you scatter the pieces well? Burry them somewhere deep under the moss.
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a'damn
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Posted : May 24, 2011 08:47
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On 2011-05-18 10:36, Ah-sid wrote:
bought it,heard it & broke it . . . .
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good work. Did you scatter the pieces well? Burry them somewhere deep under the moss.
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cut it into lines and railed it up his nose...
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kazuku
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Posted : May 24, 2011 10:26
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On 2011-05-18 10:36, Ah-sid wrote:
bought it,heard it & broke it . . . .
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good work. Did you scatter the pieces well? Burry them somewhere deep under the moss.
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cut it into lines and railed it up his nose...
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Even better, if they would have been buried they may have accidently been excavated by a hungry, foraging baby squirrel. Through the nose is a more environment friendly disposal method.
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