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Those background sounds..

nutrinoland

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Posted : Mar 26, 2011 00:37:23
Hey...are there any threads on those background sounds that make it so psychedellic....the ambiances in the background and those wooshes and stuff....are there any ideas on those ??
like , what are the best times in the bar to have the sound...the loudest part of the sounds envelope on an accent beat ..ending at the beat.....stuff like that...also EQ range of these sounds...
stuff like that..

Thanks
willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 26, 2011 00:52
hey If I'm way off the mark here, I apologize..but let me guess, you just recently got into production?

I know exactly where you're at, you want all those cool noises and stuff but you don't yet have the full vocabulary (none of us do, describing sound fucking sucks) to express exactly what you want to replicate or create

Unfortunately your questions are a little too broad to be able to answer in a way that will be anything but broad.

Many people on here are very nice and will happily explain something if you ask the right question. If you have a specific sound that you want tips on learning, one good method is to post a youtube link to the track and say 'hey this lead sound at 5.25 is sweet' or 'how do I do this bass pattern @ 2.25-2.50' - stuff like that will get responses.

My advice to you is to read a lot of the stickied threads on here, pick one synth and learn the shit out of it. learn every knob, and experiment. Keep experimenting, and try not to fret about rules.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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psyraal
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Posted : Mar 26, 2011 01:21
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pick one synth and learn the shit out of it. learn every knob, and experiment.



This may sound boring at to be a waste of time, but it's actually true, learn it, and you won't stop using it, the sooner you learn it the better           
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aciduss
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Posted : Mar 26, 2011 01:30
It is about a lot of short burst of audio, from noise sweeps to raw sawtooths with pitch mod, PWM pulses, granular stuff, chord stabs, sutter retrigger, and shit like that runned through long reverb n delay.

It is like a lot of simple techniques put together...

[trolling]Just remember the psychedelic part is inside the listener brain not in the sounds you craft so don't you ever try to get interesting or intricate detail to please an intoxicated mind because silence can be much more psychedelic. xD [/trolling]
loki
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Posted : Mar 26, 2011 01:51
lol aciduss, there should be functioning html commands for [troll] and [/troll]

So, you did ask some specifics:

1) where to place the sounds: for starters, see step #5 in this link http://cosmosis.co.uk/tips-and-tricks/stop-cussin-and-start-percussing

The link is for percussion, but it applies to fx as well. Expand on this as it applies to fx: think about what your sound is doing. Is it a quick, rising sweep of sound? consider putting it so that it peaks and cuts out right where one of your drum beats would be - especially if it fills in an empty spot in your drum pattern that could be accented. Or, if it's a repeating off beat stabby, short envelope sound, maybe place it on every other quarter note for a kind of dubby vibe.

When I was started out, I did a lot of analysis of tunes I loved. I'd sit down and pick apart an 8 bar section of a dense, layered tune and write down where each fx and percussion hit lies - and what kind of hit it is.

2) EQ range of these sounds - the only major advice is that they are usually hipassed so that they don't interfere with your kick and bass. Likewise, if the sounds are short and stabby, consider compressing them with a hard sounding compressor circuit (i use the logic compressor's FET, it's awesome) with a ratio of about 3:1 or more, an attack of 30ms or less (short, to emphasize the transient), and a release of 100ms or more so that it clamps down hart on the tail so it doesn't interfere with other sounds.

Err, hope there is some useful stuff for ya there
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