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THose annoying subfrequencies
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NikC
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Posted : Apr 1, 2006 20:44
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Yeah man.. completely agreed on the limiting overcompression front...
Thats the thing though... in psy we don't really need music that fantastically limited if we're going to be playing over a rig, when we can just "turn it up"
Some compression is inevitable.. but with commercial music you want radio play... at a set volume, where the RMS of the track adds to the impact of radio play.
I agree that you don't want to blow a system if you press bass boost, but then that's also a question of reasonable mixing hehe... if you make a disturbingly big bassline it'll inevitably cloud the rest of the mix.
And that's what monitors are for...
It should sound good and a bass too big won't... ´which is why the original poster didn't want the nasty subfrequencies in his mix... it doesn't sound good 
ps. i was asking those questions to the original poster
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 12:09
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Waow. Don't get carried away with the hi-pass filters. It will make your tracks sound wimpy and thin!
My current project has a hi-pass filter on the main stereo bus at 14Hz. Any higher and it starts loosing weight. There is -1.5dB at arround 100Hz and 230Hz on the bass but otherwise it is just the sound from the synth (Muon Tau in this case).
On the other hand, the bass passes through 3 compressors and a limiter before it reaches the speakers.
Maybe you shouldn't listen to me though, I have a distortion plugin over the main setero bus. 
Btw, Waves PAZ Analyzer sucks donkey balls. Get Voxengo SPAN. It is much better and free. (www.voxengo.com).
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Freeflow
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Posted : Apr 5, 2006 18:16
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On 2006-04-01 20:44, NikC wrote:
Yeah man.. completely agreed on the limiting overcompression front...
Thats the thing though... in psy we don't really need music that fantastically limited if we're going to be playing over a rig, when we can just "turn it up"
Some compression is inevitable.. but with commercial music you want radio play... at a set volume, where the RMS of the track adds to the impact of radio play.
I agree that you don't want to blow a system if you press bass boost, but then that's also a question of reasonable mixing hehe... if you make a disturbingly big bassline it'll inevitably cloud the rest of the mix.
And that's what monitors are for...
It should sound good and a bass too big won't... ´which is why the original poster didn't want the nasty subfrequencies in his mix... it doesn't sound good
ps. i was asking those questions to the original poster
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True man i agree  hehe
and i was just being silly about the "questions"
"I agree that you don't want to blow a system if you press bass boost, but then that's also a question of reasonable mixing hehe... if you make a disturbingly big bassline it'll inevitably cloud the rest of the mix."
Totaly true... hehe
cheers...
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 5, 2006 20:44
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On 2006-04-01 20:44, NikC wrote:
Yeah man.. completely agreed on the limiting overcompression front...
Thats the thing though... in psy we don't really need music that fantastically limited if we're going to be playing over a rig, when we can just "turn it up"
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Unfortunately Nik, many rigs are run close to their limits (cheapskate promoters not hiring big enough systems so rigs have to run with not enough headroom to handle uncompressed peaks and transients  ) so there's not much scope to 'turn it up' without mashing your mix completely. Add to that the fact that too many DJs seem to think that red lights on the mixer's meters are a good thing, and you start to see the need to mix and master so that you can get a good level without turning things up too much.
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Some compression is inevitable.. but with commercial music you want radio play... at a set volume, where the RMS of the track adds to the impact of radio play.
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Radio compression will make an already-overcompressed track sound awful as it's a brutal set of processes which totally takes no prisoners. Much much better to master so that the track keeps a wide dynamic range and then let the radio station do its thing.
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NikC
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:41
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