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the daleks
The Daleks

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Posted : Apr 17, 2008 04:58
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On 2008-04-16 23:23, vegetal wrote:

still the majority i heard still relies on the standard single saw sound with pretty much the Lp-filter completly open



to me thats the problem right there- the filter is left wide open, and you dont get enough roundness to the bass, rather this biting, sometimes plastic tone. i prefer to move the cutoff down, with a little bit of resonance and filter decay

then if i need more harmonics, i set that up with another line playing the same notes but with HPF cut, and it becomes more of a lead line that i can twist and bend as the song goes on without worrying about messing up my rolling low

may be a matter of personal taste, but i prefer this style, and maybe what is used in more of the 'classic' trance from the late 90's
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Apr 17, 2008 07:15
Hey, dubstep is def more bassheavy than drumnbass! More space for those big droney beefy low ends... nam nam!           http://www.myspace.com/fragletrollet
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Posted : Apr 17, 2008 12:42
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On 2008-04-17 04:58, the daleks wrote:
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On 2008-04-16 23:23, vegetal wrote:

still the majority i heard still relies on the standard single saw sound with pretty much the Lp-filter completly open



to me thats the problem right there- the filter is left wide open, and you dont get enough roundness to the bass, rather this biting, sometimes plastic tone. i prefer to move the cutoff down, with a little bit of resonance and filter decay

then if i need more harmonics, i set that up with another line playing the same notes but with HPF cut, and it becomes more of a lead line that i can twist and bend as the song goes on without worrying about messing up my rolling low

may be a matter of personal taste, but i prefer this style, and maybe what is used in more of the 'classic' trance from the late 90's




+1

i don't think that the poor saw is guilty of making the basslines sounding like leads. sometimes, especially in fullon you just need a saw.

but the daleks already said.
close your filters, play with decay and envelope, if it's sounding too low add some sustain. layer with a sine, square or a mix between them and a saw. trigger main amp, cutoff or pw with vel, env or arp. bend the notes, use 2 filters, saturate, eq well, use psychoacoustic fx... bla bla bla

i guess the problem are more the producers with their boring open filters, full amp sustain and no dynamics than the good old saw wave imho.
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