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PsyTiax
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Posted : Jan 3, 2009 01:26
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Btw how does a Nord Wave compares to a Nord Lead 2X ? |
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PsYmOrPh
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Posted : Jan 3, 2009 17:34
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i thinking in sell my nord rack 2x and buy access virus c.... |
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Elad
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Posted : Jan 3, 2009 18:29
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Luis M.
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Posted : Jan 7, 2009 04:26
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Hi pple!
Allow me to stick in this thread to ask your opinion..
I am gonna buy "Mopho" from dave Smith...
It's an affordable little synth, i think it's good for someone who is starting to work with synths coz it's simple..
It's pure analog, and it really sounds like it...
The lowest price i found was £ 272 (pounds).
I have a small budget, so, this seems a good piece of equipment to experiment.
Can you tell me what you think about this little synth please ?
Does anybody know if there is another option in the same budget, ?
All the best.
 "As The Mind so the Man"
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-aeon-
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Posted : Jan 7, 2009 17:25
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only heard good things about the MoPho sound, but bear in mind it might be a little bit fiddly to program - since it is so small and with so few controls. it is Dave Smith so you are buying a synth with a heritage... all the audio demos i've heard have been chunky and wonderful.
at that price range you might be able to track down a Waldorf Blofeld, which is very similar but digital (and with a bigger display). also perhaps not super-intuitive to program but very flexible... and worth learning 
i have a Virus C and i absolutely love it... fantastic, flexible, great sound and some really deep programming is possible.
although there are some things i love about the Nord Lead - the HiPass filter is incredible, the raw saw wave is really nice, and i love the build quality and materials - i'm afraid i would get seriously bored with the lack of modulation options... the Virus keeps on giving |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jan 7, 2009 17:31
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Nord Lead's resonant filter is the best digital filter I have ever heard. Its saw wave and FM algos are the tits! Its square wave sounds very good as well.
By far the best V.A. for me.
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-aeon-
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Posted : Jan 7, 2009 18:21
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yeah, i'm on the hunt for a decent Nord just for that HP filter  you can crank the resonance up and it just keeps giving and giving and giving... endless, tight, dense, saturated goodness.
Luis.M, forgot to mention a reasonably important thing about the Mopho... it's monophonic  |
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Greententacle
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Posted : Jan 7, 2009 18:45
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Before buying Hardware Synth“s,you should answer yourself some questions:
1.Have i GOOD Monitors?
2.Have i GOOD Soundcard?
3.Have i a GOOD Mixer?
4.Do i need a hardwaresynth? |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jan 7, 2009 18:47
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Mono synths can easily give massive thick stereo image. Record them twice and pan them (provided the oscillators are free running, which is the case with VCOs that don't have incoming re-trigger signals/messages).
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Jan 7, 2009 20:59
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On 2009-01-07 18:45, Greententacle wrote:
Before buying Hardware Synth“s,you should answer yourself some questions:
1.Have i GOOD Monitors?
2.Have i GOOD Soundcard?
3.Have i a GOOD Mixer?
4.Do i need a hardwaresynth?
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Definition of Soundcard? Id say you need to focus on a good (reasonable) AD.
And why would you need a mixer as long as you have enough inputs on the soundcard? Or just a patchbay on the side?
I do agree that everyone should use alot of your budget on monitors. But acoustic treatment is just as important, and so is listening to tons of tons of other speakers in different setups...
http://www.myspace.com/fragletrollet
http://www.myspace.com/unknowncausesound
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Greententacle
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Posted : Jan 7, 2009 21:13
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Definition of Soundcard? Id say you need to focus on a good (reasonable) AD.
DA is same important fpr monitoring, i used a lot of converters and you pay for a good one!
And why would you need a mixer as long as you have enough inputs on the soundcard? Or just a patchbay on the side?
If you want to sum analog?
I do agree that everyone should use alot of your budget on monitors. But acoustic treatment is just as important, and so is listening to tons of tons of other speakers in different setups...
Thats true
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index
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Posted : Jan 7, 2009 22:16
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talking about synths built in effects for sure should be a must for your choice and virus got it.
Ti series doesnt need good a/d since it can be digital,so for the sound you are looking its a good choice.
Snow its affordable enough but you ll miss the knobs that for me are really the best way for tweaking
So make your fun with a Ti and when you get the money think about the rest.
Peace HTTP://www.decadancerecords.it/audioplug |
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Luis M.
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 02:35
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Still about the Mopho :
Yeah, it's monophonic, i guess that means it's a synth which sounds only one voice, or note, at a time. correct ?
It's nice for certain types of sounds, but it might not be desireable for others, do you agree?
Monophonic in this context, does not mean mono, does it ?, The synth has got L & R Output (stereo).. I am right pple ? ?
(even if it was mono, that wouldn't be a problem, at least for what i can think of ! The sounds used could easily be duplicated and panned, for the need of stereo imaging.. yeah? )
In relation to what some pple mentioned :
I have good converters (fireface 800)
Good PC (Hush qr)
Nice speakers (Asp6 from Event)
The mixer, is something i want to purchase in the future. For the time i can't afford.
So, yes! Lolol i need an affordable synth to start...
I have good virtual emulations of hardware synths, some of them might be very similar sounding as the hardware units... But they are in the fuckin' screen. I can't touch and feel those beauties. jeje... (Synth freak)
But please, can any of you answer the question above abot the Monophonic issue... I know, some of you are used to work with synths, and i am starting now.
Someone above, mentioned the Blofeld,from Waldorf... I Personally liked it when i firts heard of it, but i notice it's sounds are a little bit shiny..(digital ?) (Me like that analog crunch!!)
For the price, i would still buy it if i'd already have other synths. A i don't...
Thanks pple..
i like hearing your opinions...
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-aeon-
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 08:20
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you're absolutely right, monophonic in this context does not mean mono. the Mopho will put out a regular stereo signal...
http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/mopho/mopho_specs.php
however it does still mean monophonic... this need not be a limitation (many 'psy' sounds - basses, squelches etc. - are one-note-at-a-time), but it's worth bearing in mind that you won't be able to play a chord. however it can get some incredibly fat detuned sounds, because of all the oscs.
it is also monotimbral, in that you only have one Mopho part at a time. with a Virus, for example, you're actually getting 16 synths in one.
and the final thing is that it only has a Lowpass filter. of course it is a wonderful DSI Curtis analogue LP filter, so it's no ordinary beast, but still... no HiPass, no Bandpass, no Bandstop. so the sonic palette will be a bit more limited.
however - if you're after affordable 'analog crunch' then everything i've heard about it is good it also processes audio, which is awesome... |
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pleiadian
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 10:48
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On 2009-01-08 08:20, -aeon- wrote:
you're absolutely right, monophonic in this context does not mean mono. the Mopho will put out a regular stereo signal...
http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/mopho/mopho_specs.php
however it does still mean monophonic... this need not be a limitation (many 'psy' sounds - basses, squelches etc. - are one-note-at-a-time), but it's worth bearing in mind that you won't be able to play a chord. however it can get some incredibly fat detuned sounds, because of all the oscs.
it is also monotimbral, in that you only have one Mopho part at a time. with a Virus, for example, you're actually getting 16 synths in one.
and the final thing is that it only has a Lowpass filter. of course it is a wonderful DSI Curtis analogue LP filter, so it's no ordinary beast, but still... no HiPass, no Bandpass, no Bandstop. so the sonic palette will be a bit more limited.
however - if you're after affordable 'analog crunch' then everything i've heard about it is good it also processes audio, which is awesome...
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How about its envelopes? fast enough??? is it good for bass then?
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