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The "what should it be called" thread

andrew interchill
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Posted : Apr 5, 2011 09:12
I agree with Melancholyman - trying to fix labels on sounds is a meaningless exercise - it is all way too subjective for there to be fixed definitions. Instead choose anything you want and put a "chill" "delica" "step" "tronica" after it...

if you have to categorise music then get imaginative... maybe you'll amuse or interest someone enough for them to click and listen...


Anogenic
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Posted : Apr 7, 2011 10:41
I much prefer 'psychill' to 'psybient'

but yeah the psy prefix does bother me a bit too.

'tripchill' would be nice.
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Gunter
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Posted : Apr 7, 2011 15:27
"Music for lost souls" how about that?
Melancholyman
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Posted : Apr 8, 2011 00:20
Quote:

On 2011-04-07 15:27, Gunter wrote:
"Music for lost souls" how about that?



You mean music for the souls that finally found their home

Tripchil sounds nize, altough, that prefix just relates to junkies imo :S           
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McKennaDMT
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Posted : Apr 8, 2011 04:40
Psy-ambient.

And you can use any word that begins with starts with psy here. Psychedelic, psychotic, psychotomimetic, psydeburns...

TranceVisuals
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Posted : Apr 8, 2011 13:59
Let's call it "sitting music" (or should that be setting music?)
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Gunter
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Posted : Apr 8, 2011 14:38
"Music for lost souls" was not meant as a real suggestion. ... I think, that it doesn`t matter so much, how you call it.
Anyways, Melancholyman, I find your question a bit misleading, since you speak about the umbrella term downtempo in your fist post. But wouldn`t it be more interesting to think, what actually is downtempo / chill out compared to finding a word for something unclear?
And here we deffenitly will have big problems figuring, what actually is chill out and what not. It totally depends on the individuum with some subgenres, e.g. Liquid Drum`n`Bass or Dubtechno sometimes for me is pure chill out ... for others it wouldn`t be chill out, but anti chill out / dance music ... so here we go
Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 8, 2011 18:13
Please keep calling it psyambient and psychill. Then I know what to avoid           www.beatagency.dk
Melancholyman
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 19:51
Quote:

On 2011-04-08 14:38, Gunter wrote:
"Music for lost souls" was not meant as a real suggestion. ... I think, that it doesn`t matter so much, how you call it.
Anyways, Melancholyman, I find your question a bit misleading, since you speak about the umbrella term downtempo in your fist post. But wouldn`t it be more interesting to think, what actually is downtempo / chill out compared to finding a word for something unclear?
And here we deffenitly will have big problems figuring, what actually is chill out and what not. It totally depends on the individuum with some subgenres, e.g. Liquid Drum`n`Bass or Dubtechno sometimes for me is pure chill out ... for others it wouldn`t be chill out, but anti chill out / dance music ... so here we go



I think I will take a Zen attitude towards this, the name of the genre cannot be put in words!           
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Gunter
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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 16:05
What genre are you speaking of?
low orbit
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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 21:58
I'm with you Andrew, i like Greg Hunter's terms, Goatronica or some such - aptly describes some of his tunes...
Gunter
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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 22:08
Could somebody please clear out what actually is talked about here?
I know: you search a term.
But how can you search a term, if it is not clear, to what this term is linked?
You first of all should describe for what you search a term. For the "PsyChill" "genre", for "chilled out music" in general ... for what?
andrew interchill
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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 23:53
Gunter - you've nailed the pointlessness of attempting to categorise music; - how can we be sure we are A - talking about the same things, and B - deriving the same meaning from the terms used.

Quite apart from it being a meaningless exercise I also think the basic urge to put sounds in a neatly defined and objective box should be resisted.

Mushroom mag recently did this mind map for all the different trance subgenres and wanted a number of us to try and apply it to the chill genre.

The beauty of the music that appears on this board is that it draws from many different sources, genres, influences and such - it is this that makes it interesting.

music that has a narrow gene pool might be easier to categorise



vector_0
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 00:27
trance and other dance music can be easily categorized because its all so similar that even the slightest variation in the established formulas make it seem like a totally different "genre."

"psy"anything should be avoided because its entirely up to the individual to decide what is and is not psychedelic.
I don't like "chillout" because that implies that the music is soft and mellow, but this is often not the case....i hear lots of energy in my favorite downbeat tracks.
I also don't like "ambient" because, to me, that means background music, or beatless textures.
when people from the square community ask what kind of music i'm listening to, it usually takes more than one or two words...."its trippy downbeat ethno techno kinda stuff." among electronica fans or ravers i assume a bit more of their genre knowledge and, depending on the track/artist, i will use one or two of the following: chillout, worldbeat, dub, trip hop, slow trance, ambient...

I'm liking my previous submission of "ambient fusion" more since i posted that because it gives a slight idea of what kind of music it is, but is still wide open and could include many styles. "ambient" meaning atmospheric/electronic, but the "fusion" means progressive, experimental, or genre bending in any way you can imagine.           http://soundcloud.com/rob-vector
vector_0
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 00:29
Quote:

On 2011-04-08 18:13, Beat Agency wrote:
Please keep calling it psyambient and psychill. Then I know what to avoid




i don't understand....you want to avoid psychedelic music? you do know what board you're posting on, right?

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