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The Waves SSL 4000 Collection

sy000321
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Posted : Mar 15, 2006 13:32
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On 2006-03-15 01:57, DarkPsy wrote:
for who like some electronics its easy to build , why not spending some bucks and make my own to test

http://www.fivefish.net/diy/SSL4000Compressor/default.htm



i guess such a project is not for the noob , they dont post schematics or component lists... so it's kind of hard to tell...           roll a joint or STFU :)
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Posted : Mar 15, 2006 20:46
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On 2006-03-15 12:53, Efteling wrote:
ok

I have in my School(SAE Berlin) a SSL 4000 E with 8 Chanel Strips from the G Series.

The ones that got to hear how an SSL Sounds like will know what i am talking about.
The EQ is like doing surgery.., very very accurate. The Master Copressor(Quad Compressor) Makes everything fat, with out squashing it to much.

Anyway the School ordered this Bundle last week for Our Icon Sudio(Pro Tools)
I must say the Interface is really nice.
The Overall options of Routing the EQs and Dynamics (E-Chanel Strip) are 1:1 from the real thing.
The Eqs sound really good.., they did hier a really good job.., not the same as the real one, but not far from it either.
The Compressor.....like the real!.. if it was a woman ... i would marry it !

Cheerz




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l337
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Posted : Mar 16, 2006 09:14
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On 2006-03-15 11:33, 14-year old e-tard wrote:
I don't think people should compare these plugs directly to the real SSL gear before they actually hear both.
How many people do you know that have had a go with an original silver/blackface?
We've all heard this story before, a new software developer releases a new emulation of "x" hardware, makes a GUI that looks very close to the real thing and people jump saying "wow this looks great...etc...etc". Same deal with the NI and Arturia synths....they "looked" great, but sounded
Let's just wait and see/hear.




it is WAVES dude.....they are proberly the most anal softplug developers out there....thats why they are reputable.
l337
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Posted : Mar 16, 2006 09:17
downloaded the demo last night, got an iLok , so going to put it through some extensive tests in the studio sooonish....

will definiterly buy it for sure if it sound sweet

btw....i think the price is very reasonable considering what they have modelled.....
14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Mar 16, 2006 11:12
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On 2006-03-16 09:14, l337 wrote:
it is WAVES dude.....they are proberly the most anal softplug developers out there....thats why they are reputable.


Dude I've tried Waves bundles that sound very average. I was using a Waves Renaissance reverb where the cheap Lexicon MPX-100 pissed and shat over from a great height.
As well as the compressors. My cheapest compressor DBX 266XL sounds better than than Waves (C something) one. Not to mention if you go up a few bucks (but stil under the Waves bundle) and go into Joemeek territory.
So it says Waves on the box, so what?
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sy000321
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Posted : Mar 16, 2006 21:12
their reputation is for making mediocre stuff...          roll a joint or STFU :)
FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Mar 16, 2006 21:20
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On 2006-03-16 21:12, sy000321 wrote:
their reputation is for making mediocre stuff...



Don´t want to enter any WAVES defending argument but your statement is simply not true...Waves plugins are found in many of the big pro studios around the world...

Im not talking about comparisons hardware vs waves etc, but to say they have a reputation for mediocre stuff is simply wrong information...they are among the best in software plugins...
High Pulse
Darkpsy

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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 03:47
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On 2006-03-15 03:11, Squarepusher wrote:
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On 2006-03-15 01:54, DarkPsy wrote:
for some reasons banks exist eheheh not only for ATM ehehehe

its a real expensive investment , but after u pass a wave into A COMPRESSOR HARDWARE , u will see that this money was more than well spent !!!!

attention that im talking about outher compressor hardware since this old SSL are no longer made , indeed very old teclnology , between 1984 and 1986 .

but u have some recent one indeed very good

just a investment






you must win lots of money with your releases to buy one SSL????Or you born rich ??

Even a AWS900 costs more than a top of the range VOLVO

Im amazed





thats because of such posts i start thinking two times before posting something , its anoying such comment .
i dont need to tell u if i get much money or not with my released , but i can tell i have some money , not rich and not poor , but when u have regular incoming getting into your bank account , u can make something called "LOAN" with this for sure u can buy if u want a ferrari since u have money to pay every month !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

about discussion of waves , they are for sure one of the best enterprises making good plugins !!! and this is my opinion!!! and im out of this thread !!!!


PS - sys about the eschematics , its easy , make a search under the internet and electronic sites and u will find out for sure .... just a mather of pacience !!!!


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Squarepusher
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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 05:43
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thats because of such posts i start thinking two times before posting something , its anoying such comment .
i dont need to tell u if i get much money or not with my released , but i can tell i have some money , not rich and not poor , but when u have regular incoming getting into your bank account , u can make something called "LOAN" with this for sure u can buy if u want a ferrari since u have money to pay every month !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey mate i dont want to be the guilty one for you to stop posting here ...
When you spoked about SSL console like its an easy buy,i was like a kid in Toys r Us... and wondering why could you buy it so easily!
Off course youre in the right to keep that to yourself
I guess you got me wrong...

BTW,if you get material that needs the warmness of the real SSL channel strip,you should consider going to a studio with one of these and pay for some hours with a mastering engineer there,surely will be expensive,but not so much as the console!

Cheers

sy000321
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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 12:35

waves plugs are mediocre... ok L2 has won some praise in the industry, but eqs and comps are... yeuk

about the SSL... good luck with that soldering iron.. ehehe           roll a joint or STFU :)
PoM
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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 13:03
lot of the waves plugins are old now... it s freeware quality hehe and not the best .
orange
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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 15:22
compare 2 software compressors... sonalksis sv-315 and waves c-1 comp with the same audio file and tha same settings or whatever!!

its pretty clear that waves compressors at least ar far behind nowadays!
sonalksis has so much character to it!!

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Squarepusher
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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 15:34
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On 2006-03-17 15:22, orange-atropa wrote:
compare 2 software compressors... sonalksis sv-315 and waves c-1 comp with the same audio file and tha same settings or whatever!!

its pretty clear that waves compressors at least ar far behind nowadays!
sonalksis has so much character to it!!

orange




Sonalksis is gr8 real nice Comp&Eq combination
High Pulse
Darkpsy

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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 22:11
squarepusher , ok

peace eheh

i didnt say i would stop , i say i just think two times before write now on !!

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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 22:24
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On 2006-03-15 11:33, 14-year old e-tard wrote:
I don't think people should compare these plugs directly to the real SSL gear before they actually hear both.



dude i got the impression that u understand some stuff about the equipment
sure u can compare these (or any) plugs to the real shit
but the scale go way down on "real shit" side

lets say that....
1st i thought logic comps was way too good
till i bought dbx266
then i understood logic comp is piece of crap compare to (still piece of crap) dbx comp
then i built a clone of ssl400 and its put stamp that says "crap" offitialy on dbx266"

one thing about digi/soft compared to REAL analog is that analog REALY do what u TELL him to do
not like digi that EMULATES the function in 1001010000101010011110 (with eq's u hear most difference about this imulation/real)

from all equipment in the studio all the mastering MUST be analog if u realy care about the sound

thats why im getting pissed off on every one of other "new age artist" that bulshit me about sound quality and still use crapy vst for the final mixings           Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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