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The Virus as an effect device

PsyTom
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Posted : May 24, 2002 22:59
What should I do in order to use the Virus as an effect device? In the manual it says that one should connect the Virus' in to an aux send bus or effect send on a mixer. Is it possible to perform this in Cubase using a multiple in/out sound card (Layla24)?
When I send an audio channel to the virus in, the processed channel is heard as well as the original channel. If I lower the volume of the original, the processed's volume would also decrease, of course.

So what should I do? Pls explain in full details.

10x in advance
PT
tyrant


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Posted : May 25, 2002 19:49
Hello,

Send the the outputs of the Layla into the Virus and then connect the outputs of the Virus to the inputs of the Layla. Set Cubase to record the effected audio to a seperate channel under the original audio. When you are done recording you will now have two seperate channels of audio. Adjust the levels of the wet and the dry signal to taste. Hope this helped.           It's moving so fast, it's standing still.
PsyTom
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Posted : May 25, 2002 19:57
10x dude, this I was able to performe.
Perhaps I should sharpen my question:
What should I do in order to use the Virus as an effect device during playback (not recording), if possible at all?

PT
tyrant


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Posted : May 25, 2002 21:52
Activate one of the aux buses in Cubase's Master Mixer to send out to one of the Layla channels (Let's say Layla3/4). Now go to the original audio channel and select you Send FX outputs. Choose two knobs and press down the Pre switches for them. Under the knobs there are the output boxes. Set one knob to Layla3/4 L and the other knob to Layla3/4 R. Now switch on both Sends and and adjust their levels out. You should hear both the original signal and the Virus effected signal. If you turn the level down on the original signal the Send level out should stay the same. I'm recalling this from memory so I could be wrong at some point. Let me know how it works anyhow.


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bilbobagginz


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Posted : May 26, 2002 11:01
quote:
"What should I do in order to use the Virus as an effect device during playback (not recording), if possible at all? "
if you can record virus as an effect while recording - you can use it as effect for the playback.

i don't see any difference from Virus's point of view - in both cases it does the same job.

simply mute(vol. down) the dry audio channel, and mix into the master only the wet one (from Layla's output -> ASIO(Master cubase mixer).

doesn't this work ?

Bom,
M.
PsyTom
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Posted : May 27, 2002 16:40
Alright, 10x for your responses ppl.

Bilbo - When I wrote what I wrote, I meant I can record the processed part and THEN delete or mute the original, because the processed part is now an audio part and not longer being processed over the Virus (so what so ever changes i'll apply to the original won't make any difference on the processed, since it's now an audio part).

Tyrant - I lost you there buddy.
"Now go to the original audio channel and select you Send FX outputs."
How is this done?
And if understand correctly, will the result be in mono?

PT
tyrant


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Posted : May 28, 2002 01:35
On the mixer press the little FX button(I think it is blue). From there the window with the 8 FX send knobs and the EQ section should pop up. Under each of the 8 FX knobs there is a text box that says the name of the FX that the knob sends to. Click in the box and hold the button down so that a list appears with all of the available FX and and Group channels appear. If you have activated the the aux bus for Layla out 3/4, it will appear in this list as (Layla 3/4 L and Layla3/4 R). Assign one of the knobs as Layla 3/4 L and another knob as Layla 3/4 R. On the back of the Layla 3 will be Left and 4 will be right. Run them to your Virus and you will have your stereo out. Remember to set the pre switches above the knobs so that you can adjust the channels volume without changing the FX Send levels out. Play your audio and turn up each of the FX Send levels as you desire. Let me know if this helps and if you have anymore questions keep them coming.           It's moving so fast, it's standing still.
PsyTom
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Posted : May 29, 2002 18:07
Thanks dude, but that doesn't seem to work. I hate to ask this, but could you instruct me step-by-step?

10x in advance
PT
tyrant


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Posted : May 30, 2002 00:33
No problem. I'll go through the steps on my machine first. Then I'll post back           It's moving so fast, it's standing still.
PsyTom
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Posted : Aug 1, 2002 11:36
Alright...
I finally managed to send audio to the Virus and to disable the audio of the original track.
The thing is, I get mono only (both of the bus channels play exactly the same thing). Now, my q is, how can I get a stereo signal out of the bus? In the original audio track I used both Bus left and Bus right sends (with the pre option), so wtf?

10x in advance
PT
bilbobagginz


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Posted : Aug 1, 2002 22:17
r u sure the audio is comming out of virus in stereo ?

r u sure u specified both audio sources from layla 2 different channels ?

PsyTom
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Posted : Aug 1, 2002 23:07
-The audio coming from the Virus is in stereo (I can see differences between the two input channel meters), but the audio that goes into the virus from cubase is in mono (two channel that play the same). This is not a cable problem or something like that; I can see the mono signal coming out of cubase in the master mixer, before in actually "leaves" the audio hardware).

-The bus is composed of channels 3+4 (left and right), and in the sends I send audio to both bus L and bus R (while the pre switches are on).

PT
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