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The Ugly Frequencies
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Serag
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 22:30
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Hi to all, i have been asking my self which are the ugly frequencies to cut in a sound, i know there are tones in frqs. like A : 4.40 khz so i suposse that the in between freqs. are doing some crashes like if u would play a 2nd minor in piano for example.
tenx in advance for you aportations.
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Upavas
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 22:45
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Take an eq, set the q setting on it to 100 or full, gain by 18 db and slowly go through the frequency range from 20hz to 20khz, you will hear the "Ugly Frequencies" quite clearly, when you have found one, attenuate to a level where it does not overpower the mix.
Don't overattenuate as this might make the mix sound somewhat lacking.
Finding the right attenuation level is the knack... and there are no fixed values for "Ugly Sounds", each sound has it's own quality and "Ugly frequencies"...
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 23:35
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Upavas
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Posted : Jan 29, 2008 00:38
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Upavas
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Posted : Jan 29, 2008 00:39
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vegetal
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bandarlog
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Tomos
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Posted : Jan 29, 2008 02:15
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On 2008-01-29 00:39, Upavas wrote:
And can you please go into the part "sometimes ugly is good?
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In my experience, ramming the eq to full gain with a very thin notch and sweeping about will produce loads of annoying frequencies because you've just increased a small part of the overall sound. I use a Q in waves of about 60. Your mileage may vary.
Always A/B !!
Tip - don't click on the node and drag it down or you're likely to shift frequency as you do so. Click on the actual numbers and drag down once you've found your nasties.
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Colin OOOD
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Upavas
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Tomos
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Posted : Jan 29, 2008 11:59
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Whatever you want it to be.
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Mesq
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Posted : Jan 29, 2008 13:21
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, i know there are tones in frqs. like A : 4.40 khz ...
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You mean A=440 Hz.
4.40 kHz = C#8
The frequencies that appear to sound "bad" or Dissonant are dependant on the fundamental frequency and the timbre of that instrument. Simple waves will have predictable "dissonant" harmonics based on the harmonic series, however complex waveforms will have unpredictable harmonics...
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Rex Trueform
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Posted : Jan 29, 2008 14:42
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It`s the real psychedelic, random noises that appear in a mix at those strange frequencies I find.
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Elad
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Posted : Jan 29, 2008 15:12
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defintly agree with mesq mostly here
its all about the frequency and timbre of each sound individualy
i like to use voxengo gliss eq or sonaklsis eq since they have analizer that show me where the resonanse is
remember evry room act diffrent about those "standing wave" freqs , depend on size , content , and metirial (the metirial is what i believe makes "country" sound - in israel its all concrit while in australia its mostly wood and defintly result diffrent eq'ing)
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 29, 2008 15:21
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take a eq make the sound as ugly as you can, then do the oposite ,maybe it ll help you . |
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