The sun is a "hell" in terms of its subatomic dimension!
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As the Koran notes that "We have made everything from water (that is, H2O)", and as every life form on earth is of water, so is man as well!
Since Man lives on this earth and is bound with its attraction, his hologramlike body of frequencies produced by brain –or his "spirit" in its familiar way of saying–, is tied within the gravitation area of earth!
On the other hand, there exists such a peculiarity in human brains that if it performs functioning (starts action), the person can escape from the gravitation of earth and the Sun consequently; and only then may he reach a life of heaven at the dimensional depth of countless stars in space, with a body suitable to the conditions there.
If the circuit to produce such an antimagnetic energy has been unfolded in one's brain, he then gets a body of frequencies along with "LIGHT" (nur). And thus, he is set free in a speed relative to his "light," namely the power of "energy" in his "spirit."
If a person's brain is unable to produce and store such kind of antimagnetic waves on his spirit, then he will not be able to get away from the attraction of earth and subsequently from the Hell, as his light will not be enough. Thus, he will be doomed in the Sun forever!
In the pursuing stages, the Sun will absorb five of the planets of the Solar system up to Mars in their orbits prior to shrinking to turn into a neutron star.
Afterwards, it will never be possible for anything to get out of it once it falls into it. More detailed information on this subject is available in our book, "MYSTERIES OF HUMAN."
As regards the life forms in the Sun, which has been specified with its feature of being "Hell". Its inhabitants were named as "demons of hell" (zabani) in religious terminology in view of their brutish characteristic of making wretched those whom they get hold of, by afflicting severely, damning, so making them helpless, weak (zabun).
Besides man living on earth and jinni on earth and in space, there are particular life forms of every planet and every star! Likewise, the Sun too, has its own inhabitants with their specific radiant nature. They were named as demons (zabani) in the Koran; they were given such a name!
Just like we, as the inhabitants of earth execute whatever we wish on powerless beings that is caught to us, the Sun's inhabitants, "demons of hell," will do the same on humans in their own manner as they wish there. All their actions will represent dreadful affliction for people there.
During its stay in the Sun "human spirit" (hologramlike body of frequencies) gets deformed, curved, shrunken and burnt (!) by the influence of high radiation. However it is never completely lost. It resembles someone's body in a dream, which gets squashed, broken, wounded and torn to pieces but after all it still maintains its life the same way as before.
During the life in the Sun known as "Hell," the body of frequencies is no sooner destroyed, squashed, stretched, enlarged, flattened, worn out and burnt than immediately turns into its previous main form. This happens over and over again.
"No sooner will their skins be thoroughly burnt than other skins are given to them." (4:56)
That Koran sign confirms our explanations above.
There is an important point that must be understood very well, now.
THE SUN IS A "HELL" IN TERMS OF ITS SUBATOMIC DIMENSION!
The same way as we have a "frequency parallel double" body, at the subatomic level associated with our physical-biological body at the level of our everyday life in the exterior atomic level, the SUN has also a replica, a "parallel double in frequencies" at the subatomic level; that such a dimension stands for its characteristic of becoming a "HELL."
For this very reason, we cannot determine the Hell-fire through our normal sensory means in our everyday lives, the same way as we cannot perceive the human spirits, angels and jinni, that are all life forms of frequency of subatomic dimension.
Beside this, people who had a transition from the level of physical body into the life of spirit body, that is wave-like body, not only observe the spirit world as their environment, but also the jinni sharing their environment and the angels of the same realm.
Furthermore, they watch the hell as well as the life forms in it as if it were right beside themselves. Because, within the perception of spirits, the concept of [local] distance ceases to exist. This is how it happens that people in the afterlife dimension can have a glimpse of hell from within their world of grave. InshAllah, you will find a detailed information about this theme in our book "MYSTERIES OF HUMAN."
Parallel to this, the stars known as the Milky way Galaxy represent heaven not in terms of their visible physical builds, but in terms of their "frequency doubles" (wavelike parallels) that form the subatomic dimension of their physical substance.
Yet, the same way as our everyday surrounding we perceive by our physical sensory means, constructs our current physical world, our surrounding in the afterlife dimension will also appear as our physical world constructed then, much as we now portray it as a "dimension of frequencies" IN CONNECTION WITH our current state of perception from the world.
On the other hand, some hologramlike bodies of frequency (human spirits) eligible to go out to countless number of planets called "heaven," will have a chance of meeting, communicating and setting up relations with one another at the same stations there, owing to the superior power within themselves. They will even have a chance of possession and disposition there.
So to speak, everyone there will be in a way a god (!) of the planets he reaches!
This is because he has been brought into being to be a khaliph of "ALLAH" on earth, and endowed, adorned with countless divine potencies, whereas the particular beings of those planets will lack such a concentrated power that humans own there.
Therefore the residents of "heaven" will reach such rewards that no eye has ever seen before, no ear has ever heard before and no tongue has ever uttered before. All our estimations about them will remain quite mean.
Those who will abide in heaven will be free from the conception of age.
There will not be such conceptions as grandfather, grandmother, mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter or children. Everyone there is of the same age.
Those who were adorned with the same potencies and who have the same level of knowledge will be altogether sharing the same environment. However, those who had less knowledge and less energy will be abiding in other environments convenient for themselves.
Perhaps your most beloved friend or someone you were closely attached to in this world will remain far away from you there.
from Mohammed's ALLAH
Ahmed Hulusi, translated by Ahmed Baki
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Posted : Jul 31, 2009 14:13
the biblical description of hell is
hot & fiery,...even most symbols of evil are denoted with fire--Fire breathing dragons etc...burn in hell is a popular cliched term many use...fire, burn, hot, all are features of the sun...and sun-stroke...sun is dangerous like hell...it has the capability to consume or "swallow" everything, like planets etc...the sun is very inviting in that sense its very tempting and the concept of hell is that it is very tempting and attractive but it will burn you...so i can see the logic...logic is necessary for religion but for spirituality its an interference...
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Oh boy. I assume you have some grounded explanation for what you just said. Allow me to ask some questions so you may enlighten me as to my misunderstandings of a few points here.
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As the Koran notes that "We have made everything from water (that is, H2O)", and as every life form on earth is of water, so is man as well!
I don't believe this is quite true. We are carbon-based life forms, and yes, our bodies contain water. Are you sure this is relevant to all single cell organisms as well? My biology is not my strongest scientific side.
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Since Man lives on this earth and is bound with its attraction, his hologramlike body of frequencies produced by brain –or his "spirit" in its familiar way of saying–, is tied within the gravitation area of earth!
On the other hand, there exists such a peculiarity in human brains that if it performs functioning (starts action), the person can escape from the gravitation of earth and the Sun consequently; and only then may he reach a life of heaven at the dimensional depth of countless stars in space, with a body suitable to the conditions there.
I'll give you this: everything with mass is bound by gravity. Even photons (light) is. So is time, electrons and other such things that the brain uses to transmit information. How can the brain escape one of the four fundamental forces of the universe (Gravity, Electromagnetism, the big and small atomic forces)... There is a theoretical particle, based on the assumption that there are things called "gravitons" which are the reason for the existence of gravity (unproven, subatomic particles), and if such exist, then so do anti-gravitons. But even if such a thing exists, it would be similar to using two magnets to cancel the magnetic field at a certain point, not a true escape from the fundamental force.
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If the circuit to produce such an antimagnetic energy has been unfolded in one's brain, he then gets a body of frequencies along with "LIGHT" (nur). And thus, he is set free in a speed relative to his "light," namely the power of "energy" in his "spirit."
If a person's brain is unable to produce and store such kind of antimagnetic waves on his spirit, then he will not be able to get away from the attraction of earth and subsequently from the Hell, as his light will not be enough. Thus, he will be doomed in the Sun forever!
The brain is unable to create anti-magnetic forces. And anti-magnetic forces, even if were real, have no effect on gravity, they are different types of forces (electromagnetic and gravitational), and work on different parameters. Could you explain how the gravitational connection to the earth and/or space travel has a bearing on hell?
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In the pursuing stages, the Sun will absorb five of the planets of the Solar system up to Mars in their orbits prior to shrinking to turn into a neutron star.
Afterwards, it will never be possible for anything to get out of it once it falls into it. More detailed information on this subject is available in our book, "MYSTERIES OF HUMAN."
Let's assume that in a billion years when this will *start* to become slightly relevant we will not have found a way out of our planet. If anything, God has blessed our specific planet, and after that, no humans will share the blessed connection that we take for granted. No one will be able to pray towards Mecca when it's been absorbed into the sun, and we all know that sun-worship is against God.
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As regards the life forms in the Sun, which has been specified with its feature of being "Hell". Its inhabitants were named as "demons of hell" (zabani) in religious terminology in view of their brutish characteristic of making wretched those whom they get hold of, by afflicting severely, damning, so making them helpless, weak (zabun).
I always thought that was a metaphor, not that there are things that actually live in the sun. But, let's assume for a moment they are. The sun has no direct effect other than sending us heat, light, certain electromagnetic waves, and gravity to hold the earth in orbit so it will remain habitable by humans. It would require those demons to be able to move from the sun's surface, into space, just for them to have a hope to reach us. Surely, someone must have noticed this?
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Besides man living on earth and jinni on earth and in space, there are particular life forms of every planet and every star! Likewise, the Sun too, has its own inhabitants with their specific radiant nature. They were named as demons (zabani) in the Koran; they were given such a name!
Just like we, as the inhabitants of earth execute whatever we wish on powerless beings that is caught to us, the Sun's inhabitants, "demons of hell," will do the same on humans in their own manner as they wish there. All their actions will represent dreadful affliction for people there.
Actually, we know quite for certain that most places in the universe do NOT support life. If anything could survive on the sun, it is highly doubtful it would survive on earth due to it being a few thousand degrees lower in temperature and with relatively nonexistent gravity, along with too many factors to list.
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During its stay in the Sun "human spirit" (hologramlike body of frequencies) gets deformed, curved, shrunken and burnt (!) by the influence of high radiation. However it is never completely lost. It resembles someone's body in a dream, which gets squashed, broken, wounded and torn to pieces but after all it still maintains its life the same way as before.
You have not explained how the human spirit reaches the sun. Nor how it is holographic in nature. I assume you are referencing the theory in which the basis of reality is information, denoting the existence of particles, energies, forces and so on, and as such, that information is generally influenced by the sun by default. Does that mean that every living thing on earth has a piece of hell in them?
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During the life in the Sun known as "Hell," the body of frequencies is no sooner destroyed, squashed, stretched, enlarged, flattened, worn out and burnt than immediately turns into its previous main form. This happens over and over again.
"No sooner will their skins be thoroughly burnt than other skins are given to them." (4:56)
That Koran sign confirms our explanations above.
Could you enlighten me as to how so, as I have raised a few questions due to my ignorance.
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There is an important point that must be understood very well, now.
THE SUN IS A "HELL" IN TERMS OF ITS SUBATOMIC DIMENSION!
OK, I know a bit about particle physics and subatomic structures. Could you explain this?
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The same way as we have a "frequency parallel double" body, at the subatomic level associated with our physical-biological body at the level of our everyday life in the exterior atomic level, the SUN has also a replica, a "parallel double in frequencies" at the subatomic level; that such a dimension stands for its characteristic of becoming a "HELL."
Are you referencing the particles sharing wave frequencies on a quantum level? If so, the Sun chances of the sun having a direct replica are so small that you have no possible idea how unlikely that is. Explain to me the scientific background for this.
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For this very reason, we cannot determine the Hell-fire through our normal sensory means in our everyday lives, the same way as we cannot perceive the human spirits, angels and jinni, that are all life forms of frequency of subatomic dimension.
Our definition of life does not extend to the subatomic. But even supposing we do that for a while, the influence of the subatomic over the bigger scales (let's say, grains of sand and bigger) is negligible at best. Could you explain this concerning philosophical confrontation between your definitions and those of science?
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Beside this, people who had a transition from the level of physical body into the life of spirit body, that is wave-like body, not only observe the spirit world as their environment, but also the jinni sharing their environment and the angels of the same realm.
Furthermore, they watch the hell as well as the life forms in it as if it were right beside themselves. Because, within the perception of spirits, the concept of [local] distance ceases to exist. This is how it happens that people in the afterlife dimension can have a glimpse of hell from within their world of grave. InshAllah, you will find a detailed information about this theme in our book "MYSTERIES OF HUMAN."
Parallel to this, the stars known as the Milky way Galaxy represent heaven not in terms of their visible physical builds, but in terms of their "frequency doubles" (wavelike parallels) that form the subatomic dimension of their physical substance.
Parallels between subatomic and non-subatomic are hard to maintain, as we understand that things like the small atomic force does NOT act like gravity in all cases. Are you trying to connect string-level physics to a larger scale? Who's work are you referring to?
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Yet, the same way as our everyday surrounding we perceive by our physical sensory means, constructs our current physical world, our surrounding in the afterlife dimension will also appear as our physical world constructed then, much as we now portray it as a "dimension of frequencies" IN CONNECTION WITH our current state of perception from the world.
On the other hand, some hologramlike bodies of frequency (human spirits) eligible to go out to countless number of planets called "heaven," will have a chance of meeting, communicating and setting up relations with one another at the same stations there, owing to the superior power within themselves. They will even have a chance of possession and disposition there.
So to speak, everyone there will be in a way a god (!) of the planets he reaches!
This is because he has been brought into being to be a khaliph of "ALLAH" on earth, and endowed, adorned with countless divine potencies, whereas the particular beings of those planets will lack such a concentrated power that humans own there.
Have you met these alien species that you can make such a claim? I ask out of curiosity.
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Therefore the residents of "heaven" will reach such rewards that no eye has ever seen before, no ear has ever heard before and no tongue has ever uttered before. All our estimations about them will remain quite mean.
Those who will abide in heaven will be free from the conception of age.
There will not be such conceptions as grandfather, grandmother, mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter or children. Everyone there is of the same age.
Those who were adorned with the same potencies and who have the same level of knowledge will be altogether sharing the same environment. However, those who had less knowledge and less energy will be abiding in other environments convenient for themselves.
Perhaps your most beloved friend or someone you were closely attached to in this world will remain far away from you there.
from Mohammed's ALLAH
Ahmed Hulusi, translated by Ahmed Baki
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Posted : Aug 2, 2009 01:09
what about the black sun?
and nibiru?
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The Sun is a BIG BLACK HOLE!!! ... Its is also a stargate to different parts of the universe... It is just not what it looks like...
Also everything in this or any universe is a black hole... you and me and everyone and each single cell in our body.. every atom etc etc is a black hole... There are 2 parts to a black hole, one is the radiating part of it and one is the sucking part of it... what we see is the radiating part of it... anyways u can check out more info on this in the below videos...
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Posted : Aug 5, 2009 16:20
Kaz
Water is the essence, not in the literal sense but in the metaphysical sense that water is the reason for existence, life flows through water...yes biologically everyone is carbon but its the water that breaks the carbon molecule to give life
For the second part- think about how you get ideas...are your ideas a part of the gravitational force?..think about drugs that "calm" your mind like prozac, zoloft, seroquel etc..pharmacology has that ability to reduce the magnetic effect of the brain...
what i mean is that you can make sense out of nonsense and nonsense out of sense...
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For the second part- think about how you get ideas...are your ideas a part of the gravitational force?..think about drugs that "calm" your mind like prozac, zoloft, seroquel etc..pharmacology has that ability to reduce the magnetic effect of the brain...
what i mean is that you can make sense out of nonsense and nonsense out of sense...
No, actually, they don't change the "magnetic" functions of the brain, and it still has no relation to gravity. Gravity's effect on the functions of the brain is neglegible from a scientific point of view (meaning that for all purposes it doesn't exist). Proof of this is the people in the space station who live in zero-G environments for long periods of time. Any change in the "way of thought" would have immediately caused the entire program to be scrapped.
Thinking of the brain in terms of a magnetic machine akin to a hard drive is beyond nonsense, it's insulting. Either you want to go on faith and talk about spirit, or you use science and talk about fact. This is scientific talk that ignores fact. It is like saying "swimming is driving, therefor you are a car", only talking about things people tend to not know much about so it's not as obvious.
I'd really, REALLY, like to understand the logic behind these metaphors. I try to always learn from others, but this truly has me stumped.
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Posted : Aug 10, 2009 19:18
dear ppl , stop quarreling about insignificant things please. please.
we are gonna have a very "mindblowing" apocalyptic event early or later and btw i even heard this from alien species:)).
it is not even funny. it is frightering to know this. we have to find each other, we have to stay together , really. in the trance scene you find significantly more people who know about this. it is not a coinscidence. it probably really has to do with our brain waves. dont lose energy against one another and with insignificant debates:).
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Posted : Aug 20, 2009 06:23
@moki - I know them alien species u r talkin abt There are like not just one species,. but many kinds,. some good ,. some bad... mostly wat i have experienced are good entities... some are hangin around in different dimensions and planes... u just need to find them or sometimes they find u... ?
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Posted : Aug 23, 2009 11:59
Maybe OFF TOPIC - so upfront - 'sorry'!!
But i do feel that somethings need a little more elaboration. Just to ensure the right common understanding and to eliminate any sort of misinterpretation. This is important to develop a constructive discussion.
NUR (Light) - is within us all! ... it is what makes us Human, and the most favored and blessed of all creations. The most apt description / synonym of this would be - 'goodness'.
You see this nur in the eyes of every child - the pure and inquisitive spirit of love and innocence which is the embodiment of happiness and joy.
Learn, Think, Travel the world to gain as much knowledge as one can .. the more you look, the more you will see and find the glory of the creator in and around you, empowering your nur, and life in this world.
Nur affects ones ability to sense right against wrong, good vs evil, love against hate.
Knowledge Is POWER!! God (you can call him by any name you like) has gifted mankind with the most powerful machine to use - The Human MIND!!
Learn and FEEL the NUR!!
Peace be with us all!!
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Posted : Aug 28, 2009 16:26
Lone witness of God on earth is the Sun. The All pervading source of life bestowed on earth is by the Sun. Sun controls all d elements of nature. It gives energy to growth of food we eat, air we breathe, water we drink. How can it be a hell, though its not near us, but sends its vibration of love and warmth to sustain. My heartfilled thanks to the everglowing Sun.
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"Sun controls all d elements of nature. It gives energy to growth of food we eat, air we breathe, water we drink."
how can u have so much sure of it ?
imo the sun we see in the sky s the great pretender , a fake star, hidin what really matter to see... and if the sun s not the hell, the reward goes to EARTH who s blinded by the light of the sun.
And surely i cant be sure of it but thats what i think atm
People consider HELL as FIRE and HOT but nowadays i undestand hell as extreme life conditions.
Thanks to global warmin we have seasons of DEEP COLD and DEEP HOT.
We see misery , murderer, hipocresy, dictators, war.
We see free sex and free drugs for everyone, greedy, glutony and there it goes.
And it seems all this s allowed to happen.
and they say hell s just like that....
and while this human beins keep worshipin the sun in ignorance influenced by those in powers who practice the ocult and makes light looks like darkness and darkness looks like light.
the goats are going mad but they still cant notice it in the mirror and what if they do they are going think its lucifer.....
If earth s not hell i hope i wont get to know the truth one lol........
dear ppl , stop quarreling about insignificant things please. please.
we are gonna have a very "mindblowing" apocalyptic event early or later and btw i even heard this from alien species:)).
And which year don't we have petty hucksters claiming the same? It doesn't take a genius to figure that something "mindblowing" will happen "early or later". Genius.
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Posted : Sep 3, 2009 14:11
why. it is also possible that nothing fucking happens:). it is included in my mathematics of possibilities .
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Posted : Sep 3, 2009 16:46
nothing happens unless we make it happen...
When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
, a fake star, hidin what really matter to see... and if the sun s not the hell, the reward goes to EARTH who s blinded by the light of the sun.
but they still cant notice it in the mirror and what if they do they are going think its lucifer..... 
