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The secret behind this excellent KB combo?

Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Nov 19, 2011 02:06:09
Hello my dear ones!
So i was listening to new psytracks, and i stumbled upon this one, and i noticed that, the bass, is played in a very low note, without sounding like its exhausted and is about to die in a sec, its very firm! and good! and the kick, is just perfect!








You guys know what synth that would be freferable for that bass? and how the heck is it so plucky? love it

And the kick? is it a very lowpitched one? i also like the harmonics in it, is it slightly saturated you think?            http://soundcloud.com/li-fe

I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Nov 19, 2011 02:22
Also, recipe for the really nice sounding lead that kicks in at around 4:30?

two slightly detuned saws + bandpass filter+ a little resonance and some distortion?            http://soundcloud.com/li-fe

I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
Grevinsky
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Nov 19, 2011 15:12
Make a the envelope plucky?.
Its an allright baseline i think but nothing really special. Id say you can make this baseline in most synths. .
Good eq´d kick with a low fundamental i think And tight envelopes on the base.           .
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Obelizk
Amoeba

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Posted : Nov 19, 2011 15:37
sounds like a Broken Toy psybass. I asked him what he used before for this kind of bass, and he said he was using Trilogy. I've gotten similar ones in Trilogy also.           www.musicproductionnatural.com || www.facebook.com/djamoeba | facebook page
Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Nov 19, 2011 16:43
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On 2011-11-19 15:37, Obelizk wrote:
sounds like a Broken Toy psybass. I asked him what he used before for this kind of bass, and he said he was using Trilogy. I've gotten similar ones in Trilogy also.




Derrrp...

Trilogy is intimidating, but my bass always end up sounding like something DNA would use...
it's so commercial



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I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
Galaxy Machine
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Posted : Nov 19, 2011 18:31
nice track


btw. do any Psy artist use Trilian for bass?           
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 19, 2011 19:16
yep it s used ,like many other synths..
Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Nov 19, 2011 19:40
WELL, how about Massive?
Anyone using that one for psy?
It seems more appropriate using sylenth for that eh?
but i really wanna use massive~             http://soundcloud.com/li-fe

I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
kick muck


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Posted : Nov 19, 2011 20:13
CronoX2 is very popular
minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Nov 19, 2011 23:16
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On 2011-11-19 18:31, Galaxy Machine wrote:
nice track


btw. do any Psy artist use Trilian for bass?




Quite a few actually, I can only recall D-maniac telling me he uses it but Im sure others have told me the same.

It has really great envelopes and filters, I use omnisphere winch envelopes and filters are quite similar to Trilian.           http://www.MindDoctorsMakeAcid.com
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Nov 20, 2011 02:32
1. trilian is awsome! i use it and infected musroom said that they are using it

2. It's very hard to realy figure out something about the bass from youtube.           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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Equilizyme
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Posted : Nov 20, 2011 05:35
I don't know what DAWs people are using, but if anyone is using ableton: have you had good experience using operator for bass? or are particular VSTs better for whatever reason? To me it seems like a saw wave is a saw wave, its the envelope and the treatment that will get results.           --
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dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Nov 20, 2011 13:37
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On 2011-11-20 05:35, Equilizyme wrote:
I don't know what DAWs people are using, but if anyone is using ableton: have you had good experience using operator for bass? or are particular VSTs better for whatever reason? To me it seems like a saw wave is a saw wave, its the envelope and the treatment that will get results.




Not exactly true. Some vst's and even real Synthesizers don't have a fat enough sound for a good bassline, or that they just don't sound good in low notes or that their envelopes are not good enough           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Nov 20, 2011 14:05
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On 2011-11-20 05:35, Equilizyme wrote:
To me it seems like a saw wave is a saw wave, its the envelope and the treatment that will get results.



The slightest deviation of the sawtooth's ramp shape will change the sound, drastically.
Each synth oscillator has its own characteristics.
For a better idea check this video of the Livewire AFG.











**drool**

Peace out.
          
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Equilizyme
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Nov 20, 2011 22:00
**drool** is right!

why didn't we do these types of experiments in physics lab?!!?

thanks DH and chichke for your responses.           --
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