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the second most annoying question!

Koozer Mox
Koozer Mox

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Posted : Nov 26, 2009 21:20
i think can be made by vanguard..cutoff lfo innit,doesnt look that hard tho.

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PoM
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Posted : Nov 26, 2009 21:29
yes or maybe fm ,tryed it with a other synth and same , the filter modulation don t sound like that,now i think it s more close to fm with a low oscillator .
anyway i wouldn t try to hard to make the same patch ,you need the same synth if you wanna get exclalty the same sound .just trying to copy it i made 2 or 3 cool leads, you see my point, make you leads it s way faster
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Nov 27, 2009 03:26
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On 2009-11-26 21:29, PoM wrote:
yes or maybe fm ,tryed it with a other synth and same , the filter modulation don t sound like that,now i think it s more close to fm with a low oscillator .
anyway i wouldn t try to hard to make the same patch ,you need the same synth if you wanna get exclalty the same sound .just trying to copy it i made 2 or 3 cool leads, you see my point, make you leads it s way faster



i have now nord lead for few days and i'm quiet sure that vibe tribe did it with nord lead that's why i try to do it now...
i heard your lead. it's nice but as vibe tribe's lead. i heard now that also azax syndrom and bliss used very similar lead in their album
Liquid_Moments

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Posted : Nov 27, 2009 07:47
Hi all

Well I will add my 2cents. I would use a modular synth like Zebra or Massive for that type of lead.

To me it sounds like a typical super saw lead with an LFO modulating the filter cutoff. I would also try setting up two oscillators an octave apart running through 2 seperate filters useing two different LFO's with different rates. You could also try adding a third LFO to the detune option, thats the one that detunes the voices not the pitch. Set the LFO'S rates to your mod wheel for some LFO madness and add abit of chorus to widen the sound.

Cheers
orgytime
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Posted : Nov 27, 2009 15:42
you want same gear like vibe tribe and then make stas´s sounds...

better get an idea of adsr and learn something... nordlead is useless if you cant controll the basics on a vst...
you are not even close to the sound.

if you take the preset of vanguard and give 100% LFO speed you get much closer... so why dont try a bit, instead of asking.

and yes, azax use similar lead sound, because everyone does it, it is THE BASIC SAW LFO LEAD, wich can vary in many many ways.

i made this lead, that ppl like you try to get an idea... but it seems like im making things worse.

cheers

EDIT... aaargh i just noticed that YOU where the one who told me vanguard sucks (mother of all leads thread).... looooooooooool.
you really think that nordlead will make any difference to YOUR sounds??? hehe, i know im bitchy right now... xD

here another basic saw lfo lead i made...
(i know you dont use vanguard xD )... the settings of biohazard you find in the discription... and if you understand them, you KNOW what to do, to make the lead you desire...




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dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Nov 27, 2009 17:30
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On 2009-11-27 15:42, orgytime wrote:
you want same gear like vibe tribe and then make stas´s sounds...

better get an idea of adsr and learn something... nordlead is useless if you cant controll the basics on a vst...
you are not even close to the sound.

if you take the preset of vanguard and give 100% LFO speed you get much closer... so why dont try a bit, instead of asking.

and yes, azax use similar lead sound, because everyone does it, it is THE BASIC SAW LFO LEAD, wich can vary in many many ways.

i made this lead, that ppl like you try to get an idea... but it seems like im making things worse.

cheers

EDIT... aaargh i just noticed that YOU where the one who told me vanguard sucks (mother of all leads thread).... looooooooooool.
you really think that nordlead will make any difference to YOUR sounds??? hehe, i know im bitchy right now... xD

here another basic saw lfo lead i made...
(i know you dont use vanguard xD )... the settings of biohazard you find in the discription... and if you understand them, you KNOW what to do, to make the lead you desire...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTAiP33z3Ic



i downloaded already your vangard preset and it's nice to understand the vibe trib's lead but still i stick to the point that vangard doesn't have good sound.
this lead of vibe tribe or azax syndrom is defently not a basic.azax syndrom did a synthesis course by the way. and i have an idea about the basics. it's not basic at all this lead and it's not so simple. and i tried more than enough to make this lead before i open this thread and after i opened this thread.
i don't claim to be so good otherwise i wouldn't even argue with you. but who are you that you think yourself as superstar artist?
and how can you judge my sound after you heard ONE sound i tried to do?
keep with vangard and we will see what will get from you.....
orgytime
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Posted : Nov 27, 2009 20:31
well, lets forget it... maybe i can show you with this sounds, that vanguard not sucks.
(ah... and vibe tribe-stas also said he used vanguard)


especially for you i spended some hours...
maybe you like it.

http://www.filefront.com/15009225/wise%20crack%20clone-01.mp3          www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
PoM
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Posted : Nov 27, 2009 22:22
nice man the modulation sound very close but n in the original it s a bit more high quality , maybe a other filter or different amout of resonance
aciduss
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Posted : Nov 27, 2009 22:44
Orgytime can we have the midi ?
icedice
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Posted : Nov 28, 2009 00:29
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On 2009-11-27 22:44, aciduss wrote:
Orgytime can we have the midi ?



You can see most of it if you watch the movie in HQ....
Freeflow
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Posted : Nov 28, 2009 00:54
It is subjective what sound is good or not!
It is also a matter of which state of mind your are in.

To say that vanguard doesn't have good sound is
in my opinion narrow minded and my guess is that you have heard tracks with vanguard in them and you have liked the sound...
(obviously as vibe tribe said he made that lead with vanguard, and now you are trying to replicate it)

Now its a totally different question what kind of equipment you like to work with! again its narrow minded to bash other equipment just cause you dont like to work with them...
PsYmOrPh
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Posted : Nov 28, 2009 01:19
well,when i started producing never nobody tells how do do it, but the true is that "watching how is made you can learn" easily that discovering by your self....u should always understand how it works and no how he do it, anyway here is the Project with automated midi lead of vibe tribe most wanted :x

automation was just recorded one time by mouse moving lol.. so it's far from perfect but u can get an idea of what knobs are important in this lead
just need vanguard and cubase 5


http://www.sendspace.com/file/bt2y82
orgytime
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Posted : Nov 28, 2009 05:14
...i just saw that you could missunderstand my last post... stas didnt say he made this lead with vanguard, he said that vanguard is good for this and that, nothing detailed.

i know my clone isnt perfect, just wanted to show that its possible with a little understanding.

i used vanguard, compressor, eq and fabfilter.

cheers
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Freeflow
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Posted : Nov 28, 2009 05:45
I see, a little misunderstanding then, but still its not cool to bash other tools just cause you dont like to work with them...

Even if i love to bash those logic users.. haha j/k
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Nov 28, 2009 19:49
Quote:

On 2009-11-28 05:45, Freeflow wrote:
I see, a little misunderstanding then, but still its not cool to bash other tools just cause you dont like to work with them...

Even if i love to bash those logic users.. haha j/k




i didn't say i don't like to work with it...i don't like the sound of it. these are different things.
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