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The role of a DJ or Live Act at a party
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kahn
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 07:18
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krisamadhi
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 07:34
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Shiranui
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 08:56
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If you are on a dancefloor you should play danceable music.
If you are on a chillroom you should play chill music.
If you are on a performance stage then play whatever you want to play.
The key thing to remember is that parties or gatherings are not concerts, they are parties or gatherings. You are not the center of the universe while you are controlling the sound. Stop being so egotistical and selfish  |
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nancy!
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 08:59
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On 2010-06-22 07:18, kahn wrote:
The DJ's job is to make people dance. Paradigm said it.
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Big +1!
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That's no sky in the pie!
It's psy in my eye!
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kahn
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 09:01
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Shranui, I disagree with your distinction between gatherings, parties, and concerts. Yes, these are concerts. And going back to the roots of the psychedelic movement, and back thousands of years before then, concerts, and gatherings set around concerts have been social gathering points; and centers of spirituality and culture. But they are still concerts.
I do think that the typical concert that people think of has a different feel than a typical psy festival or any other EDM related party however.
Anyway, maybe one thing hurting the psy movement is that we DO NOT put our headliners on pedestals; at least not to the same extent that they do in other scenes. We can keep our down to earth attitudes, while still hyping up those who truly deserve it in the scene. I know that to an extent, people do. But one thing that I know hurts psy, in terms of its ability to become wider known, is that even the biggest names are unknown to most people outside of the psy scene. If we could build some more recognition, I think there is more chance that we could see a bloom of psytrance in North America.
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Shiranui
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 09:12
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Do you think most people in the trance scene /want/ it to be wider known?
A lot of them don't. |
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Omega
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 09:17
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On 2010-06-21 23:42, Meta wrote:
There's a lot of different ways to think about this, but I think the most important thing to keep in mind is that this thread was my idea and that I deserve all the credit.
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lol, next time you are in denver, or i'm in california, we should hang out, i like your style (and your music kicks all kinds of ass) |
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Shiranui
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 09:37
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omega aren't you playing at outlet's party in july or is that a different omega |
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Omega
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 09:47
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i wasn't really thinking much along the lines of DJ set vs. Live Act, but some very good points all around. I guess I'm not really a fan of the "live act" tag in general, and I'm sorta happy that it doesn't get used much in scenes other than the psy scene. Over in Brunch Trance (or, as the uninitiated call it, "dubstep") world nobody really calls themselves "live", even if they play all original music, have track parts separated in ableton channels for live remixing, etc. I like the freedom that it allows for, so if I wanna drop someone elses' tune in the middle of my set, cuz it just fits so perfectly, I can - and I don't have to feel guilty about violating the "live" promise. but i guess it's useful for some stuff - i certainly wouldn't be willing to pay the same amount for a shpongle DJ set as I would for a shpongle live show...
Also, for a bunch of damn hippies, this crowd is just full of people who love to declare [forcefully, and with great authority] how things SHOULD be =P
i tend to not be a fan of certainty, and certainly not of the sort of certainty that would lead me to believe that I can or should tell others how they should act/think/etc. personally, the only thing I'm certain of, is that I am at least as full of shit as the rest of you
back to my original idea - I'm really thinking that (for me at least) pure option 1 = top 40 radio bullshit, and pure option 2 = masturbation, so I'm gonna just sort of drift in the gray areas between.
it's much harder to argue about when clearcut binaries aren't present, and god damned if we all don't love some arguing =P
but the gray can be so pretty...
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Omega
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 09:48
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On 2010-06-22 09:37, Shiranui wrote:
omega aren't you playing at outlet's party in july or is that a different omega
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yup, that's me |
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Tizzy
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 11:00
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On 2010-06-21 23:42, Meta wrote:
There's a lot of different ways to think about this, but I think the most important thing to keep in mind is that this thread was my idea and that I deserve all the credit.
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 well played, sir
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Tizzy
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 11:03
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I think it is primarily the artists job to entertain the crowd. They are, afterall, the core of the party.
By core, i mean largest factor to consider. Without them, there would be no party.
At the same time, however, the artist needs to be excited about his own work in order for the crowd to be excited.
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 17:01
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On 2010-06-22 08:56, Shiranui wrote:
If you are on a dancefloor you should play danceable music.
If you are on a chillroom you should play chill music.
If you are on a performance stage then play whatever you want to play.
The key thing to remember is that parties or gatherings are not concerts, they are parties or gatherings. You are not the center of the universe while you are controlling the sound. Stop being so egotistical and selfish
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should? seems you are a fan of the generic formula. that's ok
so let me ask you this: chill SHOULD be played in a chill room...what defines chill? SHOULD it be ambient music with trippy landscapes? SHOULD it be "chill"? We play funk, techno, ghetto trance (dubstep), idm, etc etc etc in Atlanta on the "chill" stage. SHOULD we do it differently?
Yes we all agree that we all like to dance to some level or another. with a 36 hour festival, i think it would be BORING and straight up Monotone to play dancy music the entire weekend (this isn't house). My preferred cup of tea has a few sets over the course of the weekend that slam you, that make you sit down on the dancefloor and THINK...trip out get inside your head...fly even.
Not everyone needs to show off their super sweet dance moves all the time....which brings us around to the ego part, LOOK AT ME EVERYBODY i'm DANNCING! lol.
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Shiranui
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 17:10
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You think everyone who likes to dance does it because they want to show off?
Sounds like sour grapes to me :x Is someone self-conscious about their dancing? (just pulling your leg)
Anyway, making people think or trip out is not mutually exclusive with being danceable. There is plenty of music which does both. |
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Shiranui
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 17:18
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Why do you call it the chill stage if it is not chill?
The chill stage should be a stage you should go to be stimulated aurally without being overloaded. It should be somewhere where you can count on people to be relaxed and there not to be a bunch of crazy activity going on. |
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