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the responsibility of the music maker and dj

Alternative control
Alternative Control

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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 11:53
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On 2006-10-25 01:16, ocelot wrote:
the person who plays the music at a psychedelic trance party has a unique responsibility-

i dont feel that i've invented this responsibility nor do i feel that this is a subjective matter of taste but rather a matter of trust.
trust between the person who may take a strong psychotropic substance to experience the trance dance fully-( the initiation etc... many of us have been there and know what it is like.) and the person playing music.
if i hear a "time to die" sample and i am the person who is high on lsd for the first time- or having a bad trip etc... i might flip out and genuinely try to hurt someone or myself.
i've seen it happen.
that kind of sample has no business being in a trance track. it doesn't help the catharsis, but rather provokes and in fact causes badness.
its not a matter of artistic expression
its a matter of compassion and care for the wellbeing of your fellow human- and understanding the POWER you have when playing music- and understanding that the PEOPLE in front of you gave you that power to take them on a trip- and if you really respect this power they have given you for two hours or so...
if you are in music and you think its ok to seek or intend harm upon the minds of the people you are playing music for i think you are in the wrong genre and for the wrong reasons.
i think it comes down to intention.
people can feel intention.
but i want to discuss the different ways you think artists and djs are responsible to the group they are guiding and vice versa.




Bro thats why , you dont make your music with samples saying something ...you make real music , with melodies, harmonies and music tonalities , since thats what makes emotions in track , just the different scale and different combination of notes....
I am sure evryone who is taking the drug , will be ok if the artist /musician , makes real music ! All will be ok......
Ofcourse those who like taking drugs and going into weird night trips with samples and crazy sounds...you cant stop them they just love that !

cheers
dennis without the label

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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 12:00
what about those who dont take drugs and still are going into night excursions?
acidonacid
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 12:28
I haven' read all the topic but I agree with ocelot's first post.           
Open your mind...
Lepton
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 12:43
I think most of us (artist/dj's,pseudohippies) are taking themself way to serious ....

Go to a venetian snares or aphex twin gig and tell them to be carefull cuz their might be someone tripping on the dancefloor who might feel bad vibrations from the music ....

it's just music and psytrance is pussy music, there is way wilder stuff out there ...

Music doesn't hurt anybody it are ppl that hurt themself by taking more dope than they can handle ....

it's like holding Mc donalds responsable for your fat ass ....
Pt.
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 12:46
old: Gun's doesn't kill poeple, people kill people.
boomshanthi
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 12:47
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On 2006-10-26 12:46, psytones wrote:
old: Gun's doesn't kill poeple, people kill people.



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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 12:48
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On 2006-10-26 11:00, Dennis the menace wrote:
a dj's responsibility is to read the dancefloor and keep the people dancing and drink beer. nothing else

And the producers dont have a single responsibility except for playing their music.. Its all up to the organizers in the end imho





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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 12:52
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On 2006-10-26 12:43, Lepton wrote:
psytrance is pussy music




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vegetal
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 12:52
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you make real music


Wow "alternative control", we are really going deeper and deeper into the rabbit-hole now. Real music?


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Pythagoraz
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 15:17
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On 2006-10-26 11:00, Dennis the menace wrote:
a dj's responsibility is to read the dancefloor and keep the people dancing and drink beer. nothing else

And the producers dont have a single responsibility except for playing their music.. Its all up to the organizers in the end imho





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Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 21:15
I wonder how some people who are in this scene can't understand why a dj is resposible for what he plays! It's incredible i mean a dj or live act, has full resposibility to give the people a beautiful experience through sound and music, is this so difficult to understand? I mean if you go to a commercial bar and they are playing all the time the same commercial shit, do you fell comfortable? no of course not because you love another kind of music! If the Dj plays really crappy sound even if it has a trance bassline i do not feel comfortable, let alone enjoy and fly with the music. Music is sound, sound is expression (good or bad) Expression is a feeling, and feeling is transmitted to the people! Easy no?           Boom :)

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Mistress of Evil
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 21:21
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On 2006-10-26 12:43, Lepton wrote:
I think most of us (artist/dj's,pseudohippies) are taking themself way to serious ....

Go to a venetian snares or aphex twin gig and tell them to be carefull cuz their might be someone tripping on the dancefloor who might feel bad vibrations from the music ....

it's just music and psytrance is pussy music, there is way wilder stuff out there ...

Music doesn't hurt anybody it are ppl that hurt themself by taking more dope than they can handle ....

it's like holding Mc donalds responsable for your fat ass ....




right on! venetian snares are the best!
i agree with all that you've posted
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 21:31
VENETIAN SNARES ARE NOT MUSIC!!!!
ASK DETOX!
Soul Kontakt
Soul Kontakt

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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 21:36
How can you compare music of aphex twin and venetian blinds to psychedlic music?? There is no comparison they are completely different culture's and feelings! we are talking about psychedelic here or am i in the wrong forum?           Boom :)

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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 21:37
i guess youre in the wrong forum....
imho the whole psychedelic thing is individual.
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