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Soul Kontakt
Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Nov 2, 2006 01:39
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You should not blame the dj at all in fact if you don't like the music he is playing then just leave without any more thoughts...I have had this many times hehehehe i got used to it now. But really when this happens i think of how good this moment can be and yes i do get some anger deep inside myself against the organisation of the festival or against who is playing, but i know that i get it because i love this music so much and really want the music to work out as it supposed to work out! with hearth and soul you can make wonders pity few of us really use them!
  Boom :)
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Dogon
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Posted : Nov 2, 2006 11:14
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I am 25 
OK, now Trippy Johnny is declared as the "one who doesn't get it", so boys & girls, listen to some music, whether with or without psychedelics & Dance 
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IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Nov 2, 2006 13:15
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vegetal
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vegetal
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And after a hard day i come home and notice your little "edit" psytones and after reading it well what can i say, You're really getting right on my tits you twat.
I'm not out to bash or get anyone here, but who tha fuck let this little acid goblin out of the closet ( With no disrespect to my friends down in hungary).
I know its helloween and everything but please take off your "Timothy Leary"-mask and stop pretending like your a "Psy"chologist. You are not only a hypocrite you are also Prejudice. Don´t gimme your elitist drug using "standard phrases" because im so fed up with them. I know my drugs, psychedelic and non-psychedelics, and i have nothing to prove to you.
So please psytones next time, Don´t you ever judge me.
And at this point your the one who don´t get the picture here, just to quote mr.soul kontakt
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| On 2006-10-31 21:27, Soul Kontakt wrote:
Many different people have gathered inside this scene it would be very difficult to play music that all will enjoy. Although when the real music is played nobody talks and everbody dance! |
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I can´t believe i have to point this one out for you but what choice do i have,
Soul kontakt is not talking about "real" boring music like you are referring to he is talking about the "real dancemusic" = Psytrance in his case.
On the other hand, I have no clue whatsoever your talking about, when you are referring to
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| So yes, I believe that psychedelic music SHOULD be produced with trips in mind. Because if you don't you might just end up with "real" music |
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Drugs are good when used as directed, if not used as directed they make you weak.
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On 2006-11-02 01:39, Soul Kontakt wrote:
You should not blame the dj at all in fact if you don't like the music he is playing then just leave without any more thoughts. |
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That's what has been said since the beginning of the thread, change of heart?
Demand recognition for the Armenian genocide 1915
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IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Nov 2, 2006 20:12
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I'm getting on your tits you little twat? .. So I'm getting on your nerves and your a little girl? (laugh with me .. haha ... haha .. funny) .. Which edit are you talking about, and I'm truly sorry if I offended you. Guess one writes stuff in the moment that isn't intended the way it may seem sometimes. Anyway, I thank you for laying the ground and telling me to step down from my high horse. I don't belong there anyway. So thank you sir.. I mean miss.
I'm not playing a know it all Timothy Leary dude at all. I'm just stating what I believe is true. And that is that psychedelic substances plays a HUGE role in the music that people like you produce, if not, i don't understand you or your music. - Of course to the topic it self. People have responsibilities for them self. - You didn't answer my earlier question. Have you listened to your own music under the influence? How was it?  -
So I'm a hypocrite and also a Prejudice? (checking the dictionary since I'm stupid and don't fully understand these words .. ) hmm, really, you think that I'm a mix between those two? We all are (more of less), and your throwing glass in the glass house, what makes you and what you have written less hypocrite and prejudice then me and my words? Maybe you should step down from your high horse as well? I'm repeating my self a lot when reading through the thread .. I guess it's because I got nothing better to write .. Stop judging me, then I'll stop judging you. Why am I not allowed to have the opinions that I hold? And what says that you are more right then me and visa versa? .. Do you even fancy psychedelics, or does "it's" effect scare the shit out of you? I know I've been scared a couple of times, maybe not scared, but unpleasant, at least - you got to take the pain to play the game. cliche, eh.
Soul Kontakt, I was so sure he talked about "real" music as music not made with eyes inside another dimension. Guess I was mistaking then, I just wish Soul could have told me that him self instead of letting me believe that I understood his metaphor.
In my mind, I got a clue because I understand my own thoughts and opinions, I just have a problem expressing those thoughts in words. My bad, and my bad can lead to terrible bad vibes, like presented here. I apologize.
Quote: Drugs are good when used as directed, if not used as directed they make you weak.
I like the looks of this line. What do you mean exactly? Please help me understand?
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Quote: So yes, I believe that psychedelic music SHOULD be produced with trips in mind. Because if you don't you might just end up with "real" music
I am still puzzled that you a) don’t understand , or b) don't agree with this simple comment. Why is it so hard to swallow? Because in your personal opinion I am wrong? It makes sense to me, but I am me, and you are you. Can we just shake hands and say that we have different opinions. Maybe next we should discuss/fight about who's got the best taste is psychedelic music? haha ^^
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Change of heart? About what? That psychedelics is essential when thinking psychedelic trance? No, not really, maybe I'm a bit close-minded in some views, but no. Not yet, not in this period of life anyway.
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Nov 2, 2006 20:29
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On 2006-11-02 20:12, psytones wrote:
Quote: Drugs are good when used as directed, if not used as directed they make you weak.
I like the looks of this line. What do you mean exactly? Please help me understand?
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I think he ment that opening a door is ok, but slamming a door over and over might hurt you in the end.
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IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Nov 2, 2006 20:36
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use and abuse?
Of course, the hard thing is not stepping over the magic thin line that separates
the two because you usually don't realize that you have crossed it before your already there.
But is this what you ment when quoting Soul Vegg-man?
Quote: psychedelic music SHOULD be produced with trips in mind.
When I wrote in mind, I didn't mean In your blood. But you understood that, right? Oh, and I'm a free thinker, and I'm dangoures |
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Pythagoraz
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Posted : Nov 2, 2006 20:57
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Psyones >
This thread is getting a bit ugly in terms of language etc. 
I feel there need to be said something that does not regard logically right/wrong/contradicting statements too get this discussion flowing again. so here is my Hippie/emotional thoughts
Maybe you can Understand what I mean:
When you conclude what you do about Psychedelic Trance and drugs, some of us (artists) who does not use drugs (anymore) can feel somewhat hurt since we pure our inner most personal expressions into the music we make and then is told that what really matters is if we use drugs? -I think this is the emotional background of many rage outbursts in this thread.
it is perfectly fine that you have the oppinion you have, but you need to know that some people will feel offended and even hurt when you say it. -this is not an entirely bad thing because it means that your oppinion is somewhat important too us
-and that is NOT out from a financial viewpoint since we don't actually significantly make/loss money no matter what you think since we barely have a sales income in the first place.
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vegetal
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Posted : Nov 2, 2006 21:11
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OMFG have you done so much drugs that you´ve lost the ability to puzzle things togheter ?
This is the edit im talking about ( can´t belive im doing this)
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On 2006-11-01 19:38, psytones wrote:
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I'm not out to bash or get anyone here, but it seems to me that you got no clue at all when it comes to a psychedelic experience. Havn't you noticed while on a trip (or major meditation session) that time, room and space does not exist? And hence psychedelic music does not exist. "Real" music as Soul Kontakt is reffeiring to isn't what you seem to think it is. Hard to explain to someone who doesnt seem to have the experience. |
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And now i want you to point out exactly where i "judged" you
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Why is it so hard to swallow? Because in your personal opinion I am wrong? |
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I'll ask the same question to you
Demand recognition for the Armenian genocide 1915
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Soul Kontakt
Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Nov 2, 2006 22:37
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Magox
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Posted : Nov 2, 2006 23:18
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On 2006-11-02 22:37, Soul Kontakt wrote:
Sorry to interrupt this little quarrel but i think that both of you guys psytones and evegetal should just accept each others outbursts and have sex hehehehehe
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jejeje.........sex is good.........
it relieves stress
but on a more serious note....
i dont see the reason for such anger and hostility.......
there is no need IMO to take ourselves so seriously that we can not respond civily to some other peoples opinions.......
isnt the purpose of this thread to put things into perspective.....?? to try to better a situation........because things could always be better IMO.....
and when the attacks are becoming personal......It doesnt resolve anything.....it only creates bad feelings and vibes.......and then nothing gets accomplished other then pissing some one off and offending that person.......
and i know at least in my case.......if i say something when i am feeling more emotional.......i may say something that i may regret......then i may feel remorseful......
i firmly believe in not saying things while in this state of mind and allowing "cooler heads" to prevail.....
cant we all just get along
jeje
anyway... i know its slightly off topic....
peace n energy
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Posted : Nov 3, 2006 10:43
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hahaha peace and love peace and love - Good day Vegetal  Hope we can just call it quits and maybe we'll even meet and laugh of this one day. Our discussion has no end and no point anymore. peace min broder, ingen harde følelser, eller hva?
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Kane
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Posted : Nov 5, 2006 08:32
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i agree but is it the responsibility of the artist to not throw in the "Time to Die" sample, or the responsibility of the crowd not to be messed up on acid? |
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On 2006-11-05 08:32, Kane wrote:
i agree but is it the responsibility of the artist to not throw in the "Time to Die" sample, or the responsibility of the crowd not to be messed up on acid?
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Both. To be a psychedelic proDJucer comes many responsibilities, think about it, your kind of responsible for someones trip!
Samples can throw a person off the map in a negative or positive way. But yes, it's important for the audience to take care of their own brain, thoughts ..
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