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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 12, 2009 21:54
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On 2009-02-12 20:48, DETOX wrote:
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On 2009-02-12 20:13, Jedi_knight wrote:
If you could see behind your 5 fingers you would have found that tens of artists and djs and projects exist and live among us and they are supreme!!!
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You mentioned the names of some labels,i kindly and briefly described the situation of each one of them and how more than half of them are closed or inactive saying that LABELWISE (not artistswise or musicwise or whatever but just labelwise) we could count the situation in Greece by using just five fingers and further saying that this proves nothing anyway because the number of labels doesnt prove if a country has a lot of good djs and artists.I didnt insult you anywhere in my post,i read what you said carefuly,i answered respecting your opinion and i backed up what i said with facts and you come up with nothing to say except insulting me and calling me ignorant while trying to make fun of me?
If we had this discussion face to face and you dared to speak to me like that for no reason at all then my five fingers and the rest of my hand would be on your face and then we would see who is a wiseguy and who is not.
Learn first to show some respect KID to the ones that talk to you with respect and then open topics asking about things that you have no clue about.
Now go to sleep KID because you got school tomorrow,i hope they teach you some manners there.
And then you wonder why Dino Psaras doesnt answer to your questions........
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On 2009-02-12 17:11, Jedi_knight wrote:
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On 2009-02-12 11:29, movek wrote:
..as for a reply to the first post
well in my opinion
trance is a Global phenomeno
and since i listen to styles and grooves
from all around the world ..
How can i be satisfied watching the progress of only greek projects?
How many times i have to listen to the same artist?
What new will he give me?
And finally how many greeks are out there
worth listening to..
sadly my friend , i can count them in one hand 
You are influenced , you gather information
by listening to fresh tunes..from creative music minds and souls ,no matter where they are from ..
And hopefully one day you'll want to make something new by yourself..to contribute!
This is what do us better , thats why you see so many talents grow up in greece the last years cause of our scene and our international parties belive me in that..
You want to talk about djs?
well for me there are not more than 4-5 real djs in greece ..
nectarios described how a real professional labal dj is and what kind of music he delivers
From every point i see it you are wrong .. sorry
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You are sure?
what about them:
Candyflip Records http://www.candyflip-records.com
Harmonia Records http://www.harmonia-records.com
Exposure Productions http://www.exposure-productions.net
Loopsnoo Records
Oktava Records http://www.oktavarecords.com/
Headstick Records http://www.headstickdigital.eu
Cosmicleaf Records http://www.cosmicleaf.com
MoonSun Records http://moonsun-records.com/
Night Oracle Records http://www.night-oracle-records.com
Mental Cruelty Records
Helicon Sound System
http://www.unicorn-music.net
and sure a lot more...
Do you know how many fine artists and djs are involved in these???
How many hands do you have???
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You answerd to this post....
I mentioned the labels to give a hint where Greek power exists , to answer to my friend movek...
Your contribution in all this is which (as the biggest promoter in Greece)?
Can you define it?
Your attidute is exactly like the 3dimension mindless guys you are working with....
I am 33 years old...
School's out....
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DETOX
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Posted : Feb 12, 2009 22:18
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You mentioned 11 labels out of which 6 are closed and when i kindly mentioned that to you all you had to say is that i cant see beyond my five fingers.A wise man once said that if you got nothing to say you better keep your mouth shut.
You ask about my contribution in the Greek scene?For a start lets just say that i owned and run one of the 11 labels that YOU mentioned and used as an example to prove where the greek power exists.Now whats your contribution apart insulting others behind a computer?
My attitude adopts to the attitude of the other people speaking to me,i never ever insulted you in this topic and i treated you with respect like i treat everyone else and what i got back is your insults and mockery for absolutely no reason at all just because you said something and i proved with facts that what you said just wasnt true because more than half than the labels that you mentioned are closed.
You couldnt answer back and you just decided to insult me behind the anonymity and protection of your computer.
Thats why you are still a KID and you better go back to school soon because you dont know how to behave and you are not even able to have a serious and healthy discussion without insulting the others when you cant answer back despite your age.Real grown up men know how to stand up and say sorry when they have done something wrong or when they have misbehaved,you instead of doing that keep talking about irrelevant things and copy pasting countless posts.
Some just age while some others mature like one commercial used to say.Somehow you managed to achieve none of them 33 years old KID.
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 12, 2009 22:38
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On 2009-02-12 22:18, DETOX wrote:
You mentioned 11 labels out of which 6 are closed and when i kindly mentioned that to you all you had to say is that i cant see beyond my five fingers.A wise man once said that if you got nothing to say you better keep your mouth shut.
You ask about my contribution in the Greek scene?For a start lets just say that i owned and run one of the 11 labels that YOU mentioned and used as an example to prove where the greek power exists.Now whats your contribution apart insulting others behind a computer?
My attitude adopts to the attitude of the other people speaking to me,i never ever insulted you in this topic and i treated you with respect like i treat everyone else and what i got back is your insults and mockery for absolutely no reason at all just because you said something and i proved with facts that what you said just wasnt true because more than half than the labels that you mentioned are closed.
You couldnt answer back and you just decided to insult me behind the anonymity and protection of your computer.
Thats why you are still a KID and you better go back to school soon because you dont know how to behave and you are not even able to have a serious and healthy discussion without insulting the others when you cant answer back despite your age.Real grown up men know how to stand up and say sorry when they have done something wrong or when they have misbehaved,you instead of doing that keep talking about irrelevant things and copy pasting countless posts.
Some just age while some others mature like one commercial used to say.Somehow you managed to achieve none of them 33 years old KID.
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The people count not the labels!!!
The minds and the souls count not the companies!!!
Music counts not the money!!!
You don't get it do you?
You are very rude you know...
You loose your right...
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virava
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Posted : Feb 12, 2009 23:48
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these posts will be deleted obviously but if you ask me, i see a detox got challenged at a grade of 10 and react out of as it was a grade of 100, and a jedi to got challenged at the grade of 100 and react under 10.
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 12, 2009 23:53
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On 2009-02-12 23:48, virava wrote:
these posts will be deleted obviously but if you ask me, i see a detox got challenged at a grade of 10 and react out of as it was a grade of 100, and a jedi to got challenged at the grade of 100 and react under 10.
so i m wondering..
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I would like nothing to be deleted...
I have no problem with DETOX...
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xrust
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Posted : Feb 13, 2009 02:41
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.there are many good artists and djis in greece,like everywere,but for sure there are more(and bigger/better/more experienced etc)every logical human being can understand that we want both greeks and foreigners.as long the music is good,everything else is minor.the reasons are very simple,and very well explained by slippers,tasos,DETOX and the other users.jedi knight you have your opinion and your point of view(which i believe is far from accurate) but when people here talk with solid facts you react with rudeness and agression.....you seem to be a bit confused if i can say...
and the amazing part is calling detox rude,exactly right after you have insulted him first 
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On 2009-02-12 11:29, movek wrote:
From every point i see it you are wrong .. sorry
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virava
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Posted : Feb 13, 2009 03:27
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mr.xrust as a third person (unconditional) and moderator of this forum i think you are the good person to ask my obvious question: with which words did jedi insulted detox?
we must be the loonatics, that we cannot understand where this happened.
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Posted : Feb 13, 2009 12:18
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I just finished reading all the posts.
Detox, you are too full of yourself!!!
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Greek artists rock!!! Lot of nice music in Greece
I agree with you Jedi_Knight
Peace
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xrust
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Posted : Feb 13, 2009 13:16
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On 2009-02-13 03:27, virava wrote:
mr.xrust as a third person (unconditional) and moderator of this forum i think you are the good person to ask my obvious question: with which words did jedi insulted detox?
we must be the loonatics, that we cannot understand where this happened.
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when jedi provided tha label links,detox was kind enough to answer to jedi with info and details about the labels.in a polite and respectfull way.and then jedi answered "if you could see behind your fingers",something that i find quite rude.cleaR?
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 13, 2009 14:05
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On 2009-02-12 20:13, Jedi_knight wrote:
If you could see behind your 5 fingers you would have found that tens of artists and djs and projects exist and live among us and they are supreme!!!
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Jedi Knight if you are not ready to have a conversation, why do you bother posting on here at all?
You started a good thread, then you mentioned a bunch of labels to which you got some specific information about their current status. After that you simply post a vague "ataka" about Greece having 10's of supreme artists, ignoring the hard facts and downplayed the straightforward answer you got, in a rather ironic and silly manner.
Instead of doing that, why don't you try giving some hard facts your self? If you could be so kind, name 10 acts that are "supreme", please.
Artists that are on the level of Kox Box, Tristan, MWNN, Dado, Transwave, X-Dream, Bamboo Forest, Etnica, Logic Bomb...the kind of trance acts that play the biggest festivals, and have the releases these people have.
Before you go on about commercial festivals that draw thousands, take note that I did not mention IM, Astrix and the myriads of Israelis that have taken a turn from psy-trance and play commercial stuff, just the people who have been belting it out proper psychedelic, for ages.
And on the subject of the dark trance trend, yes there are apparently many Greek acts involved in that scene (I don't know much about it to be honest), but bare in mind its a different, niche underground scene that a lot of people that have been listening to psy-trance, simply don't follow.
Its similar to the Uplifting scene, not in the way it actually sounds, but the way it segregated it self from the "proper" (for lack of a better word) psy-trance sound.
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virava
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Posted : Feb 13, 2009 15:15
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On 2009-02-13 03:27, virava wrote:
mr.xrust as a third person (unconditional) and moderator of this forum i think you are the good person to ask my obvious question: with which words did jedi insulted detox?
we must be the loonatics, that we cannot understand where this happened.
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when jedi provided tha label links,detox was kind enough to answer to jedi with info and details about the labels.in a polite and respectfull way.and then jedi answered "if you could see behind your fingers",something that i find quite rude.cleaR?
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no, not clear at all mate. first of all detox's post wasn t only to describe the situation in greece, but to show (his personal opinion) that we do not have much labelsm, appart from that, his reference to two of the labels was finally wrong after your info.
secondly, and most important, jedi answered back saying that if you could see behind these (less than five) labels that remain from your analysis, you would see we have supreme artists in greece.
and you want to convince me that this phrase insults detox, and detox's post saying that he would have beaten jedi if he had the opportunity, is all right?..
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 13, 2009 15:46
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Let's just cut the crap and talk like grown ups, shall we?
Instead of nitpicking words and giving our own versions of what Jedi Knight is trying to say, lets back up what we really mean, like real men do.
Jedi Knight went to see Logic Bomb and Dino. Ok so the guy did not like Dino's set, but what gets on people's tits is the way he expresses his dislike, again and again.
Posting stuff like "psaradelic pop" and puking emoticons, is good enough to get your point through, mate, ok? Once is good enough, we got it.
Some people actually had a good time, if you can't handle that, its your problem.
After that you start this thread, which although on the wrong initiative, a really important subject is laid out on the table for a possible constructive conversation.
But then you post this...
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On 2009-02-11 23:24, Jedi_knight wrote:
Like a live set or like a dj set?
And even for their live sets so what?
Do i have to go to listen to their new cd for a 1 1/2 hour show every time they come to promote it?
Even if the artists you mentioned come for 2 or 3 times per year?
Why spend a lot of money to listent to it instead of buying it?
And what if the last album of the artists you mentioned isn't so good?
Do you thing that he won't promote it?
Do you thing that he is going to play something else?
And after the 1 1/2 hour show what happens?
Just asking (even myself)...
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which in all respect, is the kind of bollocks people say that have no clue what they are talking about...I mean if you have been going to parties for years, how can you possibly think like that?
The fact that you question your self about why bothering to go to a party where you ASSUME you are going to listen to the new LP on playback, really shows what you know about artists.
Maybe you should just buy the album and stay home to listen to it mate, stop going to parties and just post bollocks behind your computer screen, cause honestly, the scene could do better without people like your self whinging about every god damn thing.
Saying that you did not like something, is fair enough, we are not here to praise everything that Detox, or any other promoter, artist, or label does, or suck each others dicks on how cool we are for attending parties where the "big star system" as you say, played.
You do come up with your own bullshit definitions of "star systems" and how they only play their tunes and the tunes that fit their label's profile. Its just people that do what they love doing, yet you seem to give some paranoid twist to everything in order to make it easier on your self, to post the shite you've been posting on here lately.
Give it a rest.
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xrust
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Posted : Feb 13, 2009 15:48
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look virana mate,tha answers are in detox's answer in the previus page,and in slipper's post right above you!mostly it is about respect,and as already has been mentioned,knowing when to keep your mouth closed!
and he said about 5 fingers,not 5 labels 
i would be also offended by a phrase like that,implying that i am clueless and prejudiced -especially if all i was trying to do is to provide infos so the guy against me understands some things.i think it is very very simple!
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Posted : Feb 13, 2009 16:04
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lopic talked 
as for buying a cd instead of going to the event.. ive listened logic bomb tracks a thousand times, but still im hanging from their fingers whenever they mix everything and make it "soupa" plus with new or unreleased tracks, if the artist is in good mood and the one you expect, is gonna blast you off with the best way and a great flow.
After all you see them by yourself, they come to play a live and carry a cd case with two thousand cd's in there .. and if the occasion and the place fit another type of sound, they play that sound and again its amazing.. thats all the money with the "pioneers"
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 13, 2009 16:21
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On 2009-02-13 16:04, gutter wrote:
lopic talked
as for buying a cd instead of going to the event.. ive listened logic bomb tracks a thousand times, but still im hanging from their fingers whenever they mix everything and make it "soupa" plus with new or unreleased tracks, if the artist is in good mood and the one you expect, is gonna blast you off with the best way and a great flow.
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Well said!
When I hear tunes I've heard before, I am grateful to be able to dance my tits off to tunes I came to love in the past, on a big dancefloor, with the sounds coming out of a big fucking P.A. and share the vibe with other people that have also heard them tunes before, yet they smile and give it their all, as well.
Its called partying...you know the sort of thing that brings like mined people together and makes them have a great time.
Remember that feeling?
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