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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 11, 2009 16:41:53
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After a long time and many years of participation in parties and festivals with electronic music and especially with psychedelic/progressive trance i came to a conclusion that needs to be discussed.
The most times that i attended these parties i realized that the best set or live was from a Greek artist or dj!!!
He gave me the music solution that i needed to hear!
He gave me the strength to think when is the next party.
He gave me the feeling that someone cares about me, about my pleasure, about my satisfaction!
So i wonder why supporting the stars and the big names from all over the world, all the time. when the music solution comes from the locals?
Why paying a lot of money just to wait when the quest star will end, to hear what i wanted to hear from the local?
Why paying a lot of money just to hear the new album of the star and only?
For me the Greek minds are on top!!!
Support the locals!!!
Don't go to massive events just to say you went!!!
This is my point of view of course!!!
I would like to know yours...
Important notice:
This discussion has nothing to do about a specific party organizer or a party team.
It goes to ALL!!!!
Peace,love,unity!
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AGnostIC
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Posted : Feb 11, 2009 16:53
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this is right.greek psy artist is recognized in (almost) everywhere!like drury nevil - tromo - sotokkan - tigran - Dark elf - looney - Crx - nom - narcosis - virava (pousoulas) and many more.... but for the non greek artist we must be more caurefull on partys cause we destroy the scene and we will do it if nothing change...
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DETOX
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Posted : Feb 11, 2009 17:00
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Greece has both good producers and djs but i think that they are not to many in comparison with UK for example or Germany.
The best thing is for a party to mix up things by featuring both local and foreign artists and this is actually what most of the parties do.
For me as a promoter i dont care if an artist/dj is from Greece,UK,Japan,USA,India,Nepal or wherever,as long as i like his music and the people ask for him then he is in my bookings list.
Saying though that the Greek producers/djs are on top of the scene sounds like an exaggeration to me to be honest.
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virava
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Posted : Feb 11, 2009 17:32
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john (Jedi_knight) said a big truth.
many greeks can play music similar or even better of the "top stars", if we talk about wide styles, i mean general progressive or general full-on.
exceptions are names (from abroad) that play a very specific kind of music you want to hear.
the two reasons that lead in this non-sense bookings are:
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the greek crowd that wants to see an international name  to trust to the music he will hear (this you know yourself that prooved wrong because how many times you got -much or less- dissapointed?)
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the greek djs that sometimes do not pay the attention needed, for the set to be serious.
so to fix the problem -i guess- orgs have to bring more greek names to the parties, pay some money to them, and generally transfer them the seriousness they need to have to play to a big party.
we have to cultivate the scene, and this problem will change soon by itself. -_-_-_-_-_-_
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 11, 2009 23:09
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I don't think there is any trance artist from Greece that comes close to the likes of Kox Box, Tristan, Dado, MWNN, X-Dream, Bamboo Forest, Etnica...to name but a few.
But as Virava said, we have to cultivate the scene for that to change.
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 11, 2009 23:24
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On 2009-02-11 23:09, pipe&slippers wrote:
I don't think there is any trance artist from Greece that comes close to the likes of Kox Box, Tristan, Dado, MWNN, X-Dream, Bamboo Forest, Etnica...to name but a few.
But as Virava said, we have to cultivate the scene for that to change.
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Like a live set or like a dj set?
And even for their live sets so what?
Do i have to go to listen to their new cd for a 1 1/2 hour show every time they come to promote it?
Even if the artists you mentioned come for 2 or 3 times per year?
Why spend a lot of money to listent to it instead of buying it?
And what if the last album of the artists you mentioned isn't so good?
Do you thing that he won't promote it?
Do you thing that he is going to play something else?
And after the 1 1/2 hour show what happens?
Just asking (even myself)...
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 11, 2009 23:33
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Most of the artists I mentioned don't simply play a live set of their new album. They include other new stuff they are working on. So you do get to hear a lot of music that you will not be able to buy for a while.
Its another thing that separates the really good artists from the not so good ones.
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 11, 2009 23:39
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On 2009-02-11 23:33, pipe&slippers wrote:
Most of the artists I mentioned don't simply play a live set of their new album. They include other new stuff they are working on. So you do get to hear a lot of music that you will not be able to buy for a while.
Its another thing that separates the really good artists from the not so good ones.
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I don't believe that he is going to play OTHER new stuff but only what suits him or his label...
And also i don't remember many sets like that but only a few...
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 11, 2009 23:44
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Your beliefs are inaccurate.
People play new stuff off whatever album they are promoting but also stuff they are working on at the moment.
Its the best way to try new material on the dancefloor.
Everybody does it...well most people anyway.
Be that a live set or a DJ set you do get to hear a lot of new music.
Anyway, after reading your posts, you did not enjoy Dino's set and you loved Doc's closing set (I did too). It seems like you have a sour taste. Next time try to be up to date with what people are playing, especially since its not cheap to go on a trance night.
You won't see me going to Goa Gill parties and then complaining about the crap tunes he played on the net, for example.
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 11, 2009 23:52
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On 2009-02-11 23:44, pipe&slippers wrote:
Your beliefs are inaccurate.
I remember many sets where people played new stuff off whatever album they are promoting but also stuff they are working on at the moment.
Its the best way to try new material on the dancefloor.
Everybody does it...well most people anyway.
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That's what i mean!!!!!!!
His plays HIS stuff anyway but not someones else and surely not different stuffs from different artists.
Only someone out of the star system can deliver that!
The Greek minds are realy openminded in this direction.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 11, 2009 23:56
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Mate, how the fuck is someone that is playing a live set, supposed to play other people's tunes?
As for DJ sets, a DJ plays new tunes that he makes, or tunes that his mates make. If you are someone who is in the scene long enough to make good music and get unreleased tunes from other artists (big or up and coming), you play their tunes if you like them enough.
Some artists give their tunes out to other DJs to play them and send them some feedback. There are promo lists that include sheets for feedback, crowd reaction...etc.
I don't understand what is troubling you?
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 12, 2009 00:07
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What is troubling me is that do we have to go with the star system?
Do we have to attend the world tour promotion of the stars?
It makes me wonder...
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 12, 2009 00:09
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You are coming up with your own excuses to justify something you did not like, yet other people did.
It makes me wonder what your true intentions are...
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Tasos_NOtrea
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Posted : Feb 12, 2009 00:20
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On 2009-02-11 23:24, Jedi_knight wrote:
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On 2009-02-11 23:09, pipe&slippers wrote:
I don't think there is any trance artist from Greece that comes close to the likes of Kox Box, Tristan, Dado, MWNN, X-Dream, Bamboo Forest, Etnica...to name but a few.
But as Virava said, we have to cultivate the scene for that to change.
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Like a live set or like a dj set?
And even for their live sets so what?
Do i have to go to listen to their new cd for a 1 1/2 hour show every time they come to promote it?
Even if the artists you mentioned come for 2 or 3 times per year?
Why spend a lot of money to listent to it instead of buying it?
And what if the last album of the artists you mentioned isn't so good?
Do you thing that he won't promote it?
Do you thing that he is going to play something else?
And after the 1 1/2 hour show what happens?
Just asking (even myself)...
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Hey Jedi,as pipe&slippers mentioned,those artists playing also unreleased stuff,stuff that maybe never gonna be released or some live loops and studio experiments which make their sets unique.
now about the locals I agree with you that many locals are play better music than the guests and sometimes they don't even get paid for this..Of course there are and many locals who realy play bad music or play music which doesn't fit to their time because they just prepared a 15 tracks set in their home and they don't know what else to play..I am not into that thing "oh he is Greek,so he sucks he can't play" but I believe that a big part of local djs have a very big idea for their selves and they always play the big hits just bacause people wants it..they afraid to play something different or more experimental because they think they will loose their "fame"..that's the reason for prefering to listen a foreign dj than a local..Of course I can't refer to specific dj's..that's my general point of view..
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 12, 2009 00:27
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On 2009-02-12 00:09, pipe&slippers wrote:
You are coming up with your own excuses to justify something you did not like, yet other people did.
It makes me wonder what your true intentions are...
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This topic is made for general discussion about the electronic music parties in Greece.
I said a conclusion that came to my mind from many years of participation in these parties.
Not for a specific issue but generally speaking...
What i express is something that i have felt many many times...
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