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D-Alien
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Posted : Jul 3, 2006 17:30
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hey my friend. Sure u can achieve this. this is the point. In Logic Audio this trick is when u use a send slot, it has some parameters, PRE and POST. if u put it as PRE it will send the signal intact, directly from the source and put it in the bus channel intact. If u choose POST sure, it wills end the signal procesed.. with the chain of effects u have on the original buss-kik channle. Dont know how it works in other softwares. just speaking for Logic 
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l337
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Posted : Jul 3, 2006 21:20
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On 2006-07-03 17:30, D-Alien wrote:
@l337
hey my friend. Sure u can achieve this. this is the point. In Logic Audio this trick is when u use a send slot, it has some parameters, PRE and POST. if u put it as PRE it will send the signal intact, directly from the source and put it in the bus channel intact. If u choose POST sure, it wills end the signal procesed.. with the chain of effects u have on the original buss-kik channle. Dont know how it works in other softwares. just speaking for Logic
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aaaah, i use Cubase, i am sure it can be done in SX as well , will try work it out 
i supse another method now that i think about it...is too just make copies of the original tracks and group them and apply a group effect |
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D-Alien
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Posted : Jul 3, 2006 21:27
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sure u can do it too. the thing is that if u make a copy of your bass-kik you ust copy the instruments also, so 2 more instruments, more cpu and system consumption for something fairly simple. also, at the moment u want to apply changes at your notes, u have to do it 2 times. What i'm proposing gives you the flexibility to work this at the same time of the ccreating process and not waiting for all the track tobe done, and than making this copies of the bass-kik.
and finally I dont think its nesecary at all. U can give avery warm and potent bass kik, by applying the proper EQ between them...
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Jul 4, 2006 06:05
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On 2006-07-03 17:30, D-Alien wrote:
@l337
hey my friend. Sure u can achieve this. this is the point. In Logic Audio this trick is when u use a send slot, it has some parameters, PRE and POST. if u put it as PRE it will send the signal intact, directly from the source and put it in the bus channel intact. If u choose POST sure, it wills end the signal procesed.. with the chain of effects u have on the original buss-kik channle. Dont know how it works in other softwares. just speaking for Logic
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aaaah, i use Cubase, i am sure it can be done in SX as well , will try work it out
i supse another method now that i think about it...is too just make copies of the original tracks and group them and apply a group effect
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Pre/Post settings are done at the "send effect strip" at currently audio channel.
U have the "on/off", "pre/post" and "e"(for fx settings).
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br0d
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Posted : Jul 4, 2006 13:34
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br0d
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Posted : Jul 4, 2006 13:44
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-The NY trick creeps me out, there is too much of a risk of phase inconsistencies as neither signal is delayed
-Always check your mixes in mono, most clubs are mono, it costs twice as much to amp in stereo
-Stereo Delaying a whole song is atrocious and will probably trainwreck you in mono
-eq, comp, eq is a good chain...single band compressors benefit from lower bandwidth, so EQ #1 is berry important
-Pre-fader send in SX is pre-fader only, not pre-inserts..for that you have to mult off to another channel
-Eat at Joe's, John 3:16
-STICKY! STICKY! STICKY!
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 4, 2006 17:36
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On 2006-05-25 23:51, PoM wrote:
the best trick ever>> read all the manuals of the plugs you use
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I agree with this one!
People who make plug-ins spend a lot of time writing these manuals for you to be able to use them properly. Still most of users don't care to read them. Desire to be famous and have released tracks seems to consume every single minute of ones life.
Manuals provide the seecrets within tools. Like invisible knobs, rear panels, inverted logic of some functions and most important - signal flow! In the end it seams that designers of VST tools allways find a way to reward users who respect thir work 
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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D-Alien
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Posted : Jul 4, 2006 17:45
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if u're a user of Logic there is onemore trick how to copy all midi mterial to one instrument to another, without any movement of tracks or channlles. why u can need this. Imagine U've build a good kik, but u want to make a small "pliuok" in the very high freqs.. so u try to equalize but it doesent get it for various reasons. what u can make? u can open another channel, put an simple fm instrument that can generate this "pliok" sound. now, go to your kik channle. up in the right corner there is a small icon like cable. get it and drag it over the same small spot on the other channel we've just made. Now u have both instruments playing the same midi material (in this case the one from the kik channel). later send both channels to one bus so that u can apply further effects on both...
the same trik u can make with other instruments, this triks allow to make diferent instrumets playing the same notes.. its very usefull for a lot of small trikies in the construction of a track..
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Jul 5, 2006 19:40
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-Pre-fader send in SX is pre-fader only, not pre-inserts..for that you have to mult off to another channel
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Just a note:
For pre-fader send working as pre-fader AND pre-insert u can use inserts 7 and 8. These 2 works also as post-eq.
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sy000321
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Posted : Jul 6, 2006 03:45
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On 2006-07-04 13:44, br0d wrote:
-The NY trick creeps me out, there is too much of a risk of phase inconsistencies as neither signal is delayed
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i think the correct way to do the ny trick includes using a delay on the compressed bus. note: delay in the signal,not delay like echo
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Posted : Jul 6, 2006 20:44
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On 2006-07-04 13:44, br0d wrote:
...it costs twice as much to amp in stereo.
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No it doesn't, but it doesn't change the fact the most club indeed are in mono.
As for tricks:
1. At least for percussion part of the trick when using the NY compression, is to put an EQ on the compressed signal and boost the high and low frequencies (a spike around 12khz and a spike belwo 100khz), so when you mix it with original channel it sort of "wraps" your percussion.
2. Panning is as important as any other mixing tool. e.g. in your rhytem sections some elements like the HH and the snare should be centred, but you can play with the rest of the percussive elements, move the congas a bit to the left, your timbales a bit to the right etc. It'll give you more space in the mix.
3. Using the send channel. Because you get the proccesed sound on a different channel than the original track, you can use it "partly" apply fx on certain elements. i like to do it with pads and a chopper: You put a chopper on a send channel, and mix the chopped pad with the original pad...
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Soth_MfK
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Posted : Jul 7, 2006 12:52
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how can i mixdown a stereo track to mono ? |
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Soth_MfK
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Posted : Jul 7, 2006 13:27
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already found out ! thx anyway |
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Tiken Chika
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Posted : Jul 8, 2006 15:03
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Well this is a good one:
if you want to make a cool effect's on an audio slice like a very "far" reverb do this:
take an audio slice and shout down is fader on the cubase mixer( so you whont hear it )
then add fx chanell (say reverb).
now put the send fx 1 on the mute source(the audio slice you want to make the effect on).in the send 1 and press the pre fader button that apeer's in the effect's send and press so it turn red.
now in the fx send slot turn it to full
no you have a "very" wet effect
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 8, 2006 15:40
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On 2006-07-06 20:44, snowflake wrote:
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On 2006-07-04 13:44, br0d wrote:
...it costs twice as much to amp in stereo.
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No it doesn't, but it doesn't change the fact the most club indeed are in mono.
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imagine a large club with stereo sound and a track with a synth pad gated with stereo gate so that every 16th changes from left to right while other side is muted. In the center of the club you would hear it properly but if you end up in left or right corner you'd hear just a half of the synth. Open-closed hi hat could also be iritating if paned wide etc.
When you set up a mono sound every place in the club gets the same sound and visitors can enjoy music even in far corners of the club. Only 10 % of clubbers who stand in the middle of the club expirience a downside of mono system. Other 90 % actually benefit from it.
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