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l337
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Posted : May 24, 2006 16:29
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ok so another mother for all the brothers.....(cringe)
This one, add any production tip or trick you have found or invented...etc
To start:
Was highlighted in a book i read on mixing and in one of the waves tutorials as well i think.
Kick/Bass:
ONce you have your bass and kick track, bounce them down as once audio wave and give it its own track.
then mute the original bass and kick, compress the mixed bass/kick audio track with some medium compression, then bring the fader down to "zero" (so no sound)
unmute the original kick and bass tracks, then slowly raise the mixed kick/bass track, until you can just hear it coming into the mix....
this should if done right , give your overall kick/bass a nice pumpy feeling!
nice.any comments on this,....or additions ,
PLease feel free to add any of your own tips and tricks regarding pproduction!
coool.
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Kitnam
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Posted : May 24, 2006 16:52
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this is called the NY-school and you can do it with any percussions or elements you want to do.
ok here is the next one... (lets stay on drums)
if you programm drumlines by yourself use the hell deadnotes. i cannot stress enough saying that.
cheers.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 24, 2006 17:47
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gill
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Posted : May 24, 2006 17:51
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Kitnam
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Posted : May 24, 2006 18:18
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indeed
@ colin
ah my bad english, what i try to say: its very important  |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 24, 2006 18:28
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Kitnam
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Posted : May 24, 2006 18:44
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hehe no worries mate, your last one killed my allready  anyhow i dont know what "hell dead notes" are. mabye we should open a new thread asking the experts of secret music production technics.
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PoM
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Posted : May 24, 2006 18:57
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L337 for this trick it s easier using the send,it can be nice for snares and all the beat too. |
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EYB
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Posted : May 24, 2006 19:11
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If u produce fast music u can slow down the tempo for creating ur drum grooves, it makes it easier to feel and progam this way.
While eqing sounds, always listen the sound together with the other parts, so u can fit it together.
NY-school (also known as parallel compression) is also easier possible with compressors with built in dry/wet parameter. Or with a compressor on a send channel.
Every little part and sound must be perfect for its own in the track, if u r unstatisfied with a element and can't get it perfect, mute it and try to program a new.
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PoM
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Posted : May 24, 2006 19:34
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to have a nice stereo image send a track to a mono group paned hard right,pan the track hard left , use the track delay on one of these(try 40 ms and set where it sound good).
always check your mix in mono. |
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fregle
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Posted : May 24, 2006 20:21
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EYB: there are no compressors with dry/wet sliders. Only effects have dry/wet sliders. Compressors are processors like EQ and noisegate etc... They never have a dry/wet slider because they always process the whole signal, instead of effecting it and adding the effect. If you're not quite sure about my explanation, look up the difference between processors and effects, other people already explained this much better then i do... |
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EYB
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Posted : May 24, 2006 20:29
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Fregle, i know what a compressor is and how it works. I am working on a hard-limiter with dry/wet option. And i know at least one compressor, the Voxengo Marquis, that have a built in dry/wet knob.
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fregle
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Posted : May 24, 2006 20:48
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seriously? that's strange... That goes against everything i learned about effects and processors from soundonsound and future music... They always say that that is the easiest way to know which machine is a processor and which machine is an effect... If it has wet/dry it's an effect, if it doesn't it's a processor... It's like putting a compressor in a send channel, normally you only use processors as inserts, and effects as sends (soundonsound even says that effects aren't supposed to be used as inserts)... But ofcourse, that's a rule that's meant to be broken, and that has been broken...
Ofcourse i know that you know what it does, but you would be surprised at how many good musicians don't know the difference between effects (reverb, delay, chorus, phaser, flanger, granulator,...) and processors (comp/lim, EQ, gate, filter,...) |
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e-motion
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Posted : May 24, 2006 21:07
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fregle don't forget... there are no rules. a compressor with a wet\dry knob (or as a send effect, which does more or less the same) exists for a thing called stealth compression. this is useful for example (here's a production trick) to give punch to percursion sounds without compressing it too much. just overcompress the sound and lower the wet knob until you like it (or decrease the send channel volume fader).
but as for eq i haven't found a use for a send effect eq (or a plugin with dry\wet knob for that matter)... it sounds too much unnatural. same goes for filter and for gate (can be used on pattern-gates but i don't like it).
the thing you're talking about is a guide, not a rule |
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illusions
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Posted : May 25, 2006 08:05
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On 2006-05-24 19:34, PoM wrote:
to have a nice stereo image send a track to a mono group paned hard right,pan the track hard left , use the track delay on one of these(try 40 ms and set where it sound good).
always check your mix in mono.
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PoM - why would you add the 40ms track delay ?
And you convert your entire track to mono to check the mix ? Don't really see the point in this. Care to explain |
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