Ok, i have one to ask for after running through this whole thread.. man, theres a lot of nice tricks and info, but didn't quite find what i was looking for
This is a classic sound, so imagine it's not too complicated.
At 1:43 the lead kicks in. I'd like it to be a bit harsher, like below at 2:12
Anyways, i'd describe it a static noise and i bet you know where i'm going.... what i'm afraid of, is that the answer is "It's just simple FM, easily done with the Virus!"
Anyone have a guess??
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On 2011-07-26 19:06, Audiosonic wrote:
Ok, i have one to ask for after running through this whole thread.. man, theres a lot of nice tricks and info, but didn't quite find what i was looking for
This is a classic sound, so imagine it's not too complicated.
Anyways, i'd describe it a static noise and i bet you know where i'm going.... what i'm afraid of, is that the answer is "It's just simple FM, easily done with the Virus!"
Anyone have a guess??
No one at all??? Hmm I was sure this was the place to ask.
Cheers
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On 2011-07-29 15:32, PoM wrote:
you answered yourself !
Argh, then i must be using the wrong waveforms or something. I can't quite get the sound i'm after. Well, atleast i am sure of the direction now, so i'm up for some experimenting
Thanks for helping out, PoM
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Posted : Jul 29, 2011 17:12
basically with the fm you modulate a oscillator by a other one at very fast rate.
changing the pitch change the modulation speed, experiment detuning the oscs by one or few octaves or what ever tune you want.. you might need to retune the lead right in the end on some patchs.
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so now that my bass is sounding pretty good i can finally concentrate on my leads...now my leads were like if I was working at a dairy farm on a chessemachine I just didnt know what was wrong so i decided to read the MOTHER of all leads thread and found out my leads were too high so now im making them on c0 and c1 with a hp and guess what thats one of the many sounds I was lookin for....Thanks Again Isratrance
basically with the fm you modulate a oscillator by a other one at very fast rate.
changing the pitch change the modulation speed, experiment detuning the oscs by one or few octaves or what ever tune you want.. you might need to retune the lead right in the end on some patchs.
Sweet nice tut from Aciduss! It is not quite enough, but a very good startingpoint for my own experiments
Thx!
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On 2011-07-26 19:06, Audiosonic wrote:
Ok, i have one to ask for after running through this whole thread.. man, theres a lot of nice tricks and info, but didn't quite find what i was looking for
This is a classic sound, so imagine it's not too complicated.
Anyways, i'd describe it a static noise and i bet you know where i'm going.... what i'm afraid of, is that the answer is "It's just simple FM, easily done with the Virus!"
Anyone have a guess??
The GMS clip sounds like there is FM on the filter which has the resonance cranked up, whereas the other clip sounds like there is FM in the oscillator section, quite like the FM sound you'd get from a Nord Lead.
Funny I checked this post now, as I made a very similar patch with the GMS clip, done with the Roland SH-101, only two days ago in our remix of Etnica's Lunar Contact, where the LFO is modulating the VCF's cut-off, running close to audio rate and having the VCF's resonance cranked up to get a lot of the modulation effect of the filter.
It is important that you have an LFO (or an oscillator that does not track the keyboard, running at sub audio rate frequency) in order to get the same modulation on the filter, irrespective of the notes you're playing.
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Ive been using Prophanity, a Prophet 6 emulation, for a while for leads, Ive tried lots of Prophet emulation freeware, and NI Pro53, Prophanity though gets the most use, and sounds great without the plasticy tone of the Pro53, and better than the other freewares.
Also, DCO-6, still beta if i recall, but its got some great sound, now my go-to Juno 6 emu for Juno-ish leads, and pad/strings as well. Another good Juno emu is Elektrostudio Six Month June, just like all his plugs its very playable right out of the box and of course, sounds as amazing as the rest.
Adam Szabo's JX-8000 emu is another great one, good for supersaws if you're into that sort of stuff. Sound has got to be one of the top-3 Best Ever Hardware Emulation (commercial, vsti division), dont be scared by the supersaws, it does more than make you sound like Tiesto. If you can get the previous version of the demo that was around before the recent update, it doesn't have watermarked sound, I dont know if it cuts off after a certain time but its preferable, I can't deal with harsh audio watermarks in synth demos and find I can't give the plug a fair run-through when Im dreading the next CRSHSHSSHSSSSH...
Another good analog-emulation freeware for leads is Polivoks Station. I love obscure-hardware-emus and this one is one of my favorites; it emulates the old Soviet-era Polyvox, the USSR's answer to early 80s Japanese and US analogs. The VSTi is a faithful emulation with a few slight additions, and has a quite unique character that I haven't really heard elsewhere. Its one of my top 5 favorites and has a place of honor in my live setup's live-keys-playing lead rack. A bit low in the volume area even cranked up to 11, but worth any efforts making it cut thru the mix better. Voxengo MSED does nicely.
Got the demo of FAW Circle last night and fell in love, its got a great sound, tons of presets, no watermarks, and is semimodular with cable-style routing, 2 sequencers and plenty of everything. On my 'VST Shopping List' along with like, 2 other commercial synths, one of which being ACE, the other being LuSH-101 (formerly Shioitor) whenevrr its finally ready. I don't often hear anything spectacular when trying out commercial vsti's, more often than not Im disappointed to hear the infamous Plastic Circuit take foreground, Arturia Im looking at YOU.
Its one thing to take that plastic sound and own it, make it the main focus of the synth and create sounds that analog hardware just can't, like Gladiator and FireBird, but its another thing to make expensive analog-emulation suite, market it as nearly-as-good-as-Moog-Modular, but then throw that damn Plastic Circuit in everyone's face and make all the various synths and all their presets have that same CV-thru-a-plastic-Coke-bottle sound.
But I guess the upside is Arturia makes Elektrostudio look even better (Srsly how many EKO Computerhythm vsti's do you know, or Oberheim 2Voice, or Davolisint, or old school rhythm boxes that actually play rhythm sequences? GET. ELEKTROSTUDIO'S. PLUGS. And get the creator all the beers he wants, all the coke, MDMA, freaking HEROIN, crack rocks, whatever he wants, cuz he DESERVES ALL OF IT. And makes albums entirely with his freeware virt-analog wonderful plugs. I read somewhere they're being OSX ported, too, so all you Jobsian Knights of the Solitary Mouse Button can have fun too)
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Please could someone let me know how to make the sound that comes in at 6:38. I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks a lot!
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Great post mudpeople!!! THNX
cunny_boy seems like typical Virus lead to me You can achieve this with other synths using high resonance value and sweeping the filter, it also has a flanger or phaser slowly modulating so it gives this tunnel feel. Also gives the impression to be trance gated.
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I was trying to think of a word to describe it and now that you say "tunnel" it's exactly what comes to mind. Thanks very much for the help. Will try it out!
after running through this whole thread.. man, theres a lot of nice tricks and info, but didn't quite find what i was looking for
and i bet you know where i'm going.... what i'm afraid of, is that the answer is "It's just simple FM, easily done with the Virus!" 
(Srsly how many EKO Computerhythm vsti's do you know, or Oberheim 2Voice, or Davolisint, or old school rhythm boxes that actually play rhythm sequences? GET. ELEKTROSTUDIO'S. PLUGS. And get the creator all the beers he wants, all the coke, MDMA, freaking HEROIN, crack rocks, whatever he wants, cuz he DESERVES ALL OF IT. And makes albums entirely with his freeware virt-analog wonderful plugs. I read somewhere they're being OSX ported, too, so all you Jobsian Knights of the Solitary Mouse Button can have fun too)
