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The Mother of all Groove
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T O T A L
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Posted : Oct 4, 2007 03:56
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Do you groove in trance?
Share yor techniques.
With loop material I record many repetitions in one take, then choose the best one.
Technically (in Live)
-set the quantize to the same number of bars as the loop
start playback
click on the loop marker
after one or two takes of one loop press right cursor to move to another loop (Live skips to another loop in the middle of playback, without interrupting the sound!)
remember the best takes and later just choose one or, better, more for slight variations.
in longer parts, if the notes vary while the rhithmic pattern is the same (evolving arps), I export the whole part and, separately, the best midi bar to cubase and create a groove from the best and imprint it on the whole part.
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Oct 4, 2007 11:37
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One thing that i like a lot is using slightly different groove-quantize settings for different parts in a track. Taking it easy with the amount of groove-quantize also helps.
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Elad
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Posted : Oct 4, 2007 12:18
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brasirc
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Posted : Oct 4, 2007 17:15
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2 double whiskys and 2 long joints...
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3l3ctromonk
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Posted : Oct 5, 2007 00:56
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Well, i will say, go with the flow.There are times when you can actually get into groove while producing.
or
Take a Marijuana Tea before producing.It doesnt hurt:-)
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T O T A L
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Posted : Oct 5, 2007 14:41
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MJ Tea? Never tried. Does it work as a joint? |
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3l3ctromonk
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Posted : Oct 5, 2007 16:26
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MJ Tea is not taken as a smoke.It is baisaclly taken as a liquid.Now, i am not promoting drugs.Excess of everything is bad but MJ tea is actually good for heart.Our sences do actually get stimulated and can help concentrating.More about it can be read here:-
http://www.hempfood.com/info/marijuana-tea.html
But again its not a "drug" promotion.You know what I mean.
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brasirc
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Posted : Oct 5, 2007 19:46
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in other words....takes longer to hit, but hits stronger =)
theres what i like to call the "Brigonha", chocolate balls (Brigadeiro) with weed cooked together...
and theres the weed butter also...you can actually eat it on breakfast with bread...hows that for a morning "groooove"
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psychowave
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Posted : Oct 5, 2007 21:44
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groove not have a super-formula...
It´s just feeling!
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T O T A L
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Posted : Oct 5, 2007 21:51
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Okay. So unlike bass, lead, monitors, eq (is there eq mother yet?), groove is a Mystery.
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brasirc
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Posted : Oct 6, 2007 00:23
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indeed...is like Mojo...
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Oct 8, 2007 09:39
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On 2007-10-05 21:44, psychowave wrote:
groove not have a super-formula...
It´s just feeling!
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It helps to fiddle around with the quantize grid though, by turning it off now and then and getting some notes in there which are slightly before or after the beat. Look at the timing of some 'groovy' breakbeats and you'll see what i mean.
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psychowave
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Posted : Oct 8, 2007 16:52
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yaahh! I agree with you booby!
fine outbeat manipulation can generate groove..
but, a Eq automation too, just a good harmony too, panning...etc...
I´m talking for make groove you can use many methods of sound manipulation...don´t have limits..
Is like percussion, You can get a amazing sound from your garage door, or maybe from your sister hair...imputing a fx..
i think to make groove, you need a knowledge in rythims...
This join in another question...what is groove?
Is a good discussion...
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T O T A L
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Posted : Oct 8, 2007 22:14
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I know what groove is.
Groove is the wave-like continuous anomaly in otherwise straight rhythm.
What do you think? |
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T O T A L
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Posted : Oct 8, 2007 22:51
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And what it does.
Straight rhythm creates a scaffolding. Without groove, rhtyhm is edgy in its nature.
Groove adds oval character.
Straight rhythm is static.
Groove animates.
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