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The mother of all ambient music???
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Upavas
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Posted : Feb 9, 2008 05:32
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ek_tola
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Posted : Feb 9, 2008 10:16
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Upavas
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Posted : Feb 10, 2008 02:46
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psyaudionamics
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Posted : Feb 11, 2008 01:31
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sure why not??? maybe some psyambient stuff like younger brother, and even some brian eno... |
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MadScientist
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Posted : Feb 11, 2008 01:41
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yeap I'm in for it 
but lets just do one, not talking about making one or showing off like this: www.myspace.com/theuser25  lol
 https://soundcloud.com/hazak
"Have you ever had that feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming?"
"Hmm, yeah... All the time, man - it's called mescaline. The only way to fly!" |
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Upavas
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Posted : Feb 11, 2008 07:22
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makus
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Posted : Feb 11, 2008 15:53
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sure.
for me it was much more difficult to make really good ambient track then psytrance. and im not talking of Shpongle, which is just perfect music, but tracks that make Cell put me into surprising state of cunfusion (in a good way) =)
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MadScientist
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Posted : Feb 11, 2008 19:34
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hehe I meant more like starting the thread, but I'm also in for a collab if someone likes...the only problem is that I dont have much time right now, and I use logic and dont have the time at all to make an all-audio-project these days!
but for a thread that gathers some usefull information I'm always ready 
https://soundcloud.com/hazak
"Have you ever had that feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming?"
"Hmm, yeah... All the time, man - it's called mescaline. The only way to fly!" |
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Upavas
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 08:43
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MadScientist
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 12:06
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yeah lets just start here, or open a new topic without the "???"!
I'll post some later, got classes right now
https://soundcloud.com/hazak
"Have you ever had that feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming?"
"Hmm, yeah... All the time, man - it's called mescaline. The only way to fly!" |
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MercuryFall
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 15:03
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great!! I'm in, also for a collab |
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technomedics
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 20:24
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anybody know of any good "how to make ambient / dub / psy breaks / drum & space" sites?? |
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Upavas
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 22:36
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Suloo
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On 2008-02-12 20:24, technomedics wrote:
anybody know of any good "how to make ambient / dub / psy breaks / drum & space" sites??
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did you get this one?
very nice thing actualy..
Tutorial Shponglizing Drum loops
This tutorial uses Logic 8 on a Mac, but the principle can be applied to Cubase (or any other program) with a minimum of modification. It's purpose is to teach you how to turn a normal drum loop or synth line into a multi-effected funky groove-monster.
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Create a new track & set up, say, 4 pre-fader sends to different busses (Buss 1, 2, 3 & 4 in this example). Turn them all down for now.
Name this track PLAY & drop your drum loop on it.
Turn the volume slider of the PLAY track all the way down (so that you can listen to each send/buss without the original signal).
Now turn up send 1 & put a cool plugin on buss 1. Get it sounding nice & make sure some dry signal is left in the plugins output.
Repeat this step for the other 3 send/busses with different plugins. Modulation delay, big reverbs, flangers on extreme settings & ring-shifters are my usual first choices.
Now you set the output of each of these busses to a new buss like this:
buss 1 > buss 5
buss 2 > buss 6
buss 3 > buss 7
buss 4 > buss 8
Then create 4 new stereo tracks using busses 5, 6, 7 & 8 as their inputs, call them REC 1, 2, 3, & 4.
So, now your signal path looks like this:
PLAY > Send 1 > buss 1 (plugin added) > buss 5 > REC 1
PLAY > Send 2 > buss 2 (plugin added) > buss 6 > REC 2
PLAY > Send 3 > buss 3 (plugin added) > buss 7 > REC 3
PLAY > Send 4 > buss 4 (plugin added) > buss 8 > REC 4
Arm REC 1~4, turn up sends 1~4 on PLAY, hit record & play through your drum loop.
Dis-arm the tracks and turn the sends back down (off).
Create 4 new blank tracks & drag the recorded files onto them.
You now have 4 seperate recordings of the different effects on fresh tracks. You can drop a new loop (or other audio file) on the PLAY channel at any time to record another composite effects take with the same settings.
Select all 4 recorded files & get your scissors tool up. Holding down ALT, split the files one 16th note (for example) after their beginning. This should split all the files at 16th note intervals until the end of the files.
Now get your mute tool up & mute the chopped audio files randomly, making sure that only one file is playing at any given point in time.
Press play and, if all went well, your drum loop has magically turned into a shponglized monster. Congratulations
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I generally put an eq & limiter on the output and export (bounce) out an audio mix-down. So my end product is one nice, compact, pre-equed piece of pineal pleasure that fits easily anywhere in my arrangement, but thats up to you... You can also leave them as individual tracks, so that you can duplicate them and change their sequence of play to create variations.
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Also, instead of the ALT & scissors split, you can chop the files in a manner that creates an organic rhythm you like. If the splits are always exactly at the same point on all 4 tracks, you can go the muting/umuting step with no fear of sections overlapping by accident.
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(Logic 8 users only) Instead of the ALT & scissors split, select the 4 recorded files and go to "Region/Folder/Pack take folder". By clicking on the triangle on the left-hand side of the newly created folder, you can open it up to see its contents. Then all you do is click & drag over the section you want to hear from each sub-track (take).
Happy tweaking
Love & light,
Ajja
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piXan
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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 10:09
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that was kinda heavy for me. hey dudes can u share how u make drums and percussions for ur ambient tracks. do u use step sequencers, samplers like battery or kontakt, do u use loops and if u do how do u mangle them. for me its kinda hard to get that relaxed vibe and not sounding too mechanical,.. the best results i have gotten so far is to start with a recorded loop i like, mangle it a bit with stylus , phatmatix or simple audio edition... then i try to put toguether my own drums in top of that using battery or redrum sometimes, finally i might not even use the base lloop anymore or sometimes i will. and on top of that i find good results when using an realistic acoustic drum set sampler , like bfd or ezdrummer.. i search for a loop that fits the electro percussions , but with a more groovy, not quantized, shuffle feeling. compress them and eq and i think i get some decent results but i know im far still.. so every advice is needed.
also im stuck with bass. i have tried trilogy and its ok but still doesnt do it . i think a real bass would be the best answer... anyway i found a bass intrument for kontakt sonic couture abstract bass,,, and its reaall sweeeeet, extra recommend for the dubby ambient basslines..
ok thanx
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