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The Mother of Acoustic Treatment

kyro prophet


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Posted : Jun 13, 2008 20:09
i live in edmonton, alberta, canada and it is hard to find the owens corning 700 series insulation here. there is a company called Roxul though. they make acoustical fire batts (AFB) that have similar densities as the owens corning products. just a tip if you have trouble finding it...

http://www.roxul.com/sw18192.asp
http://www.roxul.com/graphics/RX-NA/Canada/Product%20Literature/Tech%20Data/AFB-6-4-08.pdf

http://www.owenscorning.com/
search for "3825 O/C Acoustic Wall Guide"


here i compare these coefficient tables from their brochures.
ASTM C423 CO-EFFICIENTS AT FREQUENCIES
(hopefully the formatting works here)

owens corning 705 plain, 4” thick
125Hz 250Hz 500Hz 1000Hz 2000Hz 4000Hz NRC
0.75---1.19---1.17----1.05-----0.97-----0.98----1.10

Roxul AFB 4" thick
125Hz 250Hz 500Hz 1000Hz 2000Hz 4000Hz NRC
0.86---1.11---1.20----1.07-----1.08-----1.07----1.10

as you can see they are basically the same stuff.
mk47
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Posted : Jun 14, 2008 10:15
a question , does acoustic treatment matter at all on really low volume ?
mk47
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 07:21
^cmon ppl , an inquiring mind wants to know
orgytime
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 09:39
maybe this pic about mirrorpoints helps someone http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/cc44/orgytime/?action=view&current=studiososmirrorpoints011l.jpg

          www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
orgytime
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Posted : Jun 21, 2008 20:01
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On 2008-06-14 10:15, mk47 wrote:
a question , does acoustic treatment matter at all on really low volume ?




hmm, i think there is always a reflection from walls, and if your volume is that low, mixing is senseless anyway, because you are not hearing what you are doing.

greetings, orgy           www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
Adharaguy
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Posted : Jul 7, 2008 21:42
I there...Someone can tell me if there is somme rules about the posicion of accustic panels in the front and back walls???
Thanks
fuzzikitten
Annunaki

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Posted : Jul 10, 2008 21:18
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On 2008-04-17 21:08, Dharma Lab wrote:
Interesting read about the helmholtz resonator. I see them very much as the last link in the chain, as they only target very specific frequencies.



Bingo. Broadband absorbtion for general treatment (ie, to cut down on the bass overall) and then, for problem frequencies, use of a helmholtz resonator.

Get-a-fix
Getafix

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Posted : Jul 11, 2008 13:07
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On 2008-07-07 21:42, Adharaguy wrote:
I there...Someone can tell me if there is somme rules about the posicion of accustic panels in the front and back walls???
Thanks



Check out these links:

http://www.gikacoustics.com/room_setup.php

http://www.realtraps.com/placing_mt.htm          http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
orgytime
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Posted : Jul 12, 2008 21:40
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb06/images/studiososmirrorpoints01.l.jpg

i also like this one!           www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
Elad
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Posted : Jul 14, 2008 14:27
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On 2008-06-14 10:15, mk47 wrote:
a question , does acoustic treatment matter at all on really low volume ?




less
but if you work in proffessional conditions (83DB i think?) its not low volume at all.. and is essential to work like this get balanced mix.. so u want to have those acoustics candy

tel-aviv , Salame 40 , if anyone intrested to buy acoustic foam things , dont buy in music shop its where they buy it from
fuzzikitten
Annunaki

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Posted : Jul 14, 2008 18:54
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On 2008-07-14 14:27, Elad wrote:but if you work in proffessional conditions (83DB i think?) its not low volume at all.. and is essential to work like this get balanced mix..



Agreed - for proper balance you need to give the song a listen at loud volumes. But you don't have to always be listening loudly (like if you're programming a synth or drum etc). Just turn it up when you're focused on mixing a section.

Don't forget to take lots of ear breaks.

And at this volume only have the song playing when you need it, not constantly.
Sound Geezer

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Posted : May 11, 2010 02:52
You could mix lower if you like. 75dB SPL is fine. The loudness contours of our hearing are still almost as linear as at 85dB SPL. The advantage is that you don't drive the room modes as much at the lower level. Oh and of course fatigue.
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