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gutter
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Posted : Mar 28, 2008 18:01
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i think you should change the side of your desk
cause the reflections from you back are huge for sure . to look to the inside of the room .. chears
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LS.
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Posted : Mar 28, 2008 20:07
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Thank you Gutter. Appreciate your time spent.
As soon as i move i will be treating my room with £300. Hoping it will be enough but you have inspired me to research further...
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MadScientist
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Posted : Mar 28, 2008 21:53
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Elad
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Posted : Mar 28, 2008 22:09
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avduka
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Posted : Mar 29, 2008 03:42
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tnx I almost considered building my own with Rockwool. What are these sponges you are talking about? Do you have a picture or a link? Are these the sponges you do dishes with? I don't know if am up for gluing those on my walls. |
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Elad
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Posted : Mar 30, 2008 04:34
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avduka
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Posted : Mar 30, 2008 07:36
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what do you guys think about using a themperpedic kinda material? You know like a mattress type... I know it kinda sounds stupid and expensive but I have an extra one I got a while ago for cheap on sale. Its not really a mattress but something you put on top of a mattress to keep you extra cumffy. Something like this...not the exact one but similar and not as thick.
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=13506043
Mine is about 5 inch thick. |
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neogen
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Posted : Mar 30, 2008 12:22
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i got this thingy thats helps with acoustics and its free, its called ''mixing at a low/reasonable volume''
i wouldn't become too reliant on good acoustics tho, bcoz i might have to work without good acoustics some dayz, unless i end up making trance in a cave i guess then i would be worried about it hehe.
buts thats just my opinion.
it can depend on the type speaker that may/may not suit your room aswell.
most important is that you learn your speaker and get your setup exactly how you feel most comfortable.
so, if you feel comfortable with the sound you are getting already and you don't get any room resonances and you feel as your speakers aren't tellin porkies to you, don't fix what ain't broke.
but on the other hand, i'm sure everyone in this forum could have better room acoustics than they have now, but there is no need to take things too far and getting distracted from makin tunes too much, unless it bothers you that muuch.
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Mike A
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Posted : Mar 31, 2008 02:22
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So? It's only dangerous (yea right) when working with the material. This is when the fibers get released into the air and then you can inhale them.
BUT - if you use mask and gloves, it's perfectly fine. It will not affect you once it's covered by fabric and never touched again.
Remember - you have to smoke for years to get cancer. You don't get it because you smoked once or twice.
Anyway, back to producing in my glasswool treated room. 
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gutter
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Posted : Mar 31, 2008 11:07
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* R38 – Irritating to the skin
* R39 – Danger of very serious irreversible effects
* R40 – Possible risk of irreversible effects
* S36/37 – Wear suitable protective clothing and gloves.
All European produced rock (stone)wool and glass wool is bio soluble and R39 and R40 do not apply. For these products only the risk phrase R38 remains. This irritation to the skin however is not a chemical irritation but only a temporal mechanical irritation, comparable with exposure of the skin to straw, grass or hay. |
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Indeed its dangerous only for working with it.And its not cancerous , cause only epidermic skin problems (if you are careless enough to work without protection)
I have bought a small asphyxiating mask (6-7 euro)
and a good pair of gloves to work with the rockwool
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gutter
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Posted : Mar 31, 2008 12:29
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Elad
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Posted : Mar 31, 2008 13:09
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On 2008-03-31 02:22, Mike A wrote:
So? It's only dangerous (yea right) when working with the material. This is when the fibers get released into the air and then you can inhale them.
BUT - if you use mask and gloves, it's perfectly fine. It will not affect you once it's covered by fabric and never touched again.
Remember - you have to smoke for years to get cancer. You don't get it because you smoked once or twice.
Anyway, back to producing in my glasswool treated room.
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cigarette example is wrong since you aint gonna quit are you.. or you produce juse "once or twice"
the particals can come off it anytime as well when not working with it and its just hang there (as far i heard from peaple , i aint gonna test in in my lab)
anywayz i dont have nothing against this metirial personly offcourse , just rather not take the risk that it might does effect my health , and i do have a friend that had terrible skin problems from rockwool (he was exposed to it in the studio about 4 months of work evryday 10-12 hours , but then he quit just becuase of this) www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/ |
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Mike A
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Posted : Mar 31, 2008 13:53
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On 2008-03-31 13:09, Elad wrote:
and i do have a friend that had terrible skin problems from rockwool (he was exposed to it in the studio about 4 months of work evryday 10-12 hours , but then he quit just becuase of this)
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Did he just hang up the rockwool in his room without sealing it properly inside fabric?
Because people have been working for years in studios without dying of obscure diseases.
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gutter
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Posted : Mar 31, 2008 14:59
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.. it would be really stupid for companies that build handmade acoustic traps to exist , if those products were harmful for our health.
As for the DIY , its up to you to take the right protection & make a decent & stable construction to hold the material -- same thing as the ones that are in the market --
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Kadavr
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Posted : Mar 31, 2008 23:04
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"The EU risk and safety phrases associated with this material in general are:
* R38 – Irritating to the skin
* R39 – Danger of very serious irreversible effects
* R40 – Possible risk of irreversible effects
* S36/37 – Wear suitable protective clothing and gloves.
All European produced rock (stone)wool and glass wool is bio soluble and R39 and R40 do not apply. For these products only the risk phrase R38 remains. This irritation to the skin however is not a chemical irritation but only a temporal mechanical irritation, comparable with exposure of the skin to straw, grass or hay." ...
I am pretty sure that as long as the panels are well sealed all around on both sides it shouldn't be a problem. |
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