he doesn't even try.. and he's ranked as 14th on the djmag top 100!!
axwell is 10th, sebastian ingrosso is 16th.. swedish house mafia live act is 23rd.
the criteria must be popularity.. definitly not skills or effort.
dance with your hands in the air!!! instant profit
amazing, how this guys are allowed to do mediocre performances and still get paid. the fans and the event organizers are not demanding.
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I'm seriously thinking of moving our liveset to traktor, nobody seems to give a shit anyways
and even if someone does care, the crowd is placed at a safe distance. they can't see much!! the key is to pretend to be busy!!
Remind me of our own scene these days
Press play on the laptop and get booked because you are popular and know how to act like you play real live.
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Xamanist
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It's true that today very few people care if the guy playing is doing great live shit or faking it...
As an artist I'm OK with that, people should dance and have fun and even never look to the DJ or Artist if they are flying high in the dancefloor...
For me as an artist is a poor experience to just press the play and dance to my own music, even if nobody cares about it... I just get bored and feel like a Go-Go dancer
So today I'm making/building half of the tracks of my live-act live, for my own fun.
11 mute buttons to control beats and voices, 9 faders to mix sounds, 6 knobs to mix FXs, an endless loop, a lot of training... and a lot of fun!
Because of that nowadays I end up doing all my music live in the studio, and it feels wonderful, compared to copy/paste composition in a sequencer!
Sérgio Xamanist
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Faking that live act like steve angello did is good but faking the producing is even better:
.....ouch :S
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zabot
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imo if is a live must be live! lol when i make live i pretend give something new in my tracks to the listeners try to play some melodies or do some rhythm whit some synth you like... in this days we have tones of killa plugs to make the live more interesting ... so please don´t fake ... if you want make a dj set do it! dont play with the keyboard off loool its unlovely.
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Posted : Aug 10, 2011 18:02
a fake live with a good set is still better than a bad set played live lol
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a fake live with a good set is still better than a bad set played live lol
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zero_the_hero
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Posted : Aug 10, 2011 19:20
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On 2011-08-10 07:42, jonsta wrote:
Faking that live act like steve angello did is good but faking the producing is even better
The best is faking a whole concern and make
a lot of money:
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If a DJ d not master the fundamental basics or an artist does not know anything beside pushing the start button then maybe they should not call themselves Djs/artists in the first place and stay away from the stage!
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zabot
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On 2011-08-10 20:44, Beat Agency wrote:
If a DJ d not master the fundamental basics or an artist does not know anything beside pushing the start button then maybe they should not call themselves Djs/artists in the first place and stay away from the stage!
PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Aug 11, 2011 23:52
my opinion: what counts is what the artist made to become booked for a live, the live set is the ultimate celebration of that
plus, in a crowd of say 2000 people there will be less than 10 knowing how to dj,ableton and stuff like that
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screen from my current live setup, everything is fully synthesized live, one rack is run by Thesys, another by ClockWOrK (which is great for analog-style live sequencer-twiddles). The guitar sound is acoustic/classical so no buttrock-goa. The leads rack can be played with keys or run from clips, the few on there are the ones Ive been using while refining the sounds of everything, and the bass clips are all basic templates to build off of. Thesys and Era which runs the Transistordrums both have general patterns prearranged, Thesys has nice mutation buttons, but Era pretty much is prearranged-patterns-only for now. I haven't mapped either of those to the controller yet other than the pattern shifter knob on Era, so once thats done things might be less prearranged, Im debating using M4L plugs or Reaktor to sequence the Transistordrums with more realtime control, Era is great but its somewhat awkward managing 3 different step sequencers while triggering fx and muting channels and fading in synth racks and changing active instruments......
I put a MIDI fx rack on everything that receives note data, filled with Scale devices mostly cannibalized from Axis Mundi's rack, all mapped to the same controls so everything is always in key, the note data fed into the arpeggiators is in key and the date from teh arps to the synths too, idk if its redundant that way but I do know its necessary to feed the arpeggiators note data in key before they send their own data to the racks to make sure the chords they're fed are the same key as their output, otherwise there are notes out of key from time to time, and I would rather the note data be consistent throughout the signal flow.
Oh yeah, the arpeggiators are Kirnus, freeware vsti with some neat parameter control, almost like Thesys, if Thesys was just an arp instead of a MIDI sequencing monster of awesome and win.
The synth send and the bass/perc/kicks' sends' send have my fx rack and Minimal Systems' BK Filter set to BP for nice CDJ100 style filtering, the rack has a Glitch, Ohmicide, a Turnado, SupaTrigga with a granulator on the end, and a chain of Melda individual fx, all the chains overlap, crossfading, for smooth transition, and cuz its nice to hear a Glitch, then a Glitch with reverbed ringmod that fades to verb-ring that fades to Turnado etc.
Despite my best efforts Ive become a devout follower of Sugarbytes. I kept hearing how awesome Thesys was when asking about step sequencers, initially it seemed too much for my purposes and too much prearrangement but its grown on me. Its got Bach in there all ready to sequence something, how cool i sthat? Consequence surprised me though, I thought it was another sequencer but it turns out its a triple-synth groove box, and sequencer, haven't gotten too far into trying it out but anything that plays itself adds more variety, which means more interesting live sets with enough sound options to keep a dancefloor interested for a few hrs and myself sufficiently entertained and noodling happily.
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panike
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Faking that live act like steve angello did is good but faking the producing is even better:
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When I visit Festivals/parties all i care about is that the music is good. Im with PoM there: Better a good live-fake than a boring liveset.
From the other side I can understand the critics very well, if someone is labeled as Live on a gig, he should be live. I dont know how much the payment is different between dj&live but its just unfair for those who don't fake it.
My first track:
http://soundcloud.com/kryten/
vector_0
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Posted : Aug 20, 2011 15:55
if you went to a showing at an art gallery for your favorite painter would you expect him to paint all your favorite pieces in front of you while you?
it takes months to make a good track, so just enjoy that you're hearing it on a big system. when electronic artist try to actually make music live it usually sounds like shite.
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