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The General Mood on the Island
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tigga
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Posted : Jul 17, 2002 18:10
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I was wondering how all you UK based people were feeling about the UK Trance in general...
My personal feelings are that there is quite a lot of good things starting to build within the scene:
New party people are taking on the challenge, especially the Liquid Connective and ID Spiral (the Sub-Sunday Mell:Out is real quality) groups, pushing the alternative way of living as well as the parties.
The music being released from this country has been good so far - Unusual Suspects is my album of the year so far - and a return to a higher quality, more defined full on psychedelic trance can only be good.
Nights like the Logic Bomb Kundalini which was so over loaded with people and harsh security I thought were becoming a thing of the past but there still seems to be some money grabbing problems there.
I was hoping that party promoters in London might be finding new places to hold parties as everyone seems a little bored of the EQ Warehouse and its 3 quid a beer shocker...but the kundalini place near london bridge was pretty shite too...tyssen st IMO had the space to allow a great party, a high ceiling allowed everyone to expand, the EQ is a little enclosed
Up here in the North the trance scene is still very much underground:
Leeds doesn't have a dedicated psychedelic night although we are getting out and about with some psychedelic ambient at various squats.
Manchester has Sunrise, which has been running for a while now, playing on a more progressive tip, with one of its residents Matt Allaby signed to Spiral Trax and a monthly chill night called Inverted run by my good friend Chris.
Liverpool has Alien Resonance and I believe Christos from Sunrise in Manchester is now based there putting on nights as well.
Newcastle, once home to the infamous Plexus and then Tsoma now hosts Synapse, run by Frank and Billy, which is keeping the spirit alive up in the chilly north east.
So a healthy scene? jot down some views...
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tom anteater
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Posted : Jul 17, 2002 18:17
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i'd say fairly healthy basically..
it seemed a little unclear to me what was gonna happen to the london scene with the demise of both the drome and tyssen street (and btw, sick of eq, mate, not half as sick as 5 years of the tyssen toilet...), however things have picked up real good. i rather like the eq warehouse, and i love the stratford rex... both at the alchemy party and psygate (gms/deedrah) this venue was well used. also there is the medussa club down in brixton, there was a very enjoyable natural order party (and smthing else that lost me a f*** load of money but we won't go into that  ) there.
and now we hear that the antiworld conglomerate are to do a trimonthly regular (can anything tri monthly reall be regular?) the next one has like saikopod afaik  so its looking good in the capital for legit parties..
then there's the free ones, there seem to be more psy free parties than there used to be.. its all good basically and on the up..
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tigga
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Posted : Jul 17, 2002 18:36
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Hmm, just thought of another question:
What do people think of the quality of the bands playing in the UK...do you think we get a fair share of live performances by the very best djs and bands?
I always seem to think that we don't get that much but recently it has been better - although not quite like say Solstice in Japan who will have Raja, Tristan, Simon P, gms, Alien Prject, KoxBox, and more all at one night (they must be AMAZING) - and surely we need to get a big outdoor festival going..
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tom anteater
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Posted : Jul 17, 2002 19:02
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i dunno about the solstice thing, but tiggs, there is such a thing as too much chocolate...
i think we have some quality acts in the uk, this year i have seen logic bomb (no comments please tigga!) gms, dark soho, synthetic, yumade, charasmatix.. not bad
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Asi
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Posted : Jul 17, 2002 21:27
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i have to agree that can be a better place then the EQ Warehouse, but dont forget that the scene is getting bigger and bigger everyday.
the Antiworld is always trying to make new partys, same as brixton.
but the psy-Party's will stay underground for a long time...and i think its good
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jon
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Posted : Jul 18, 2002 01:42
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> logic bomb, gms, dark soho, synthetic, yumade, charasmatix..
yeah, all live, mostly at Kundalini. Wizzy Noise were also at Kundalini and were superb if i remember correctly (or at all).
Also, wasnt Deedrah live at psygate? rather than a DJ set?
I know he=synthetic so it hardly counts but....
I don't feel equipped to comment on venues since I am a total newbie in the grand scheme of things. But I do think the Stratford Rex is excellent. The sound system was a bit 'boomy' for some Antiworlds, but was loud and clear for Psygate and alchemy...... much better than the Arches (kundalini venue).
edit: I mean the rex is much better as a venue.
cheers,
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tom anteater
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Posted : Jul 18, 2002 02:06
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yeah jonny mate, synthetic and deedrah both live as we well know but i thought given the context it was fair to lump the babes together. and viz the soundsystem at the rex: i heard you moaning about it from the antiworlds, and then it kicked arse at psygate and alchemy - so it can be done... it just depends on who the promoters have got in to do the sound.
btw this f'ing saikopod album really kicks!!!
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tigga
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Posted : Jul 18, 2002 12:05
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On 2002-07-17 19:02, tom anteater wrote:
i dunno about the solstice thing, but tiggs, there is such a thing as too much chocolate...
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Too much chocolate? never...
besides what would you know - you spend most of nights unconcious in a corner somewhere after damaging yourself repeatedly through acts of lunacy after overindulgance (2 mushrooms....)
so the Arches - has it been better since the Logic Bomb gig? i heard they had put restrictions on numbers - but they said that for the Logic Bomb one....did anyone see the raja ram post on tip world site which completely slated everything about that night? i laughed loud and long....hohohoho
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tom anteater
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Posted : Jul 18, 2002 12:27
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the arches has been a lot emptier since the logic bomb gig. there was one kundalini (i think yumade or smthing) that was almost embarrasingly empty... afaik there are not gonna be any more kundalini parties there (this could be wrong, if so please correct me) and i haven't seen any fliers for cosmic carrot for a while either.. so maybe the arches has fallen off the roster so to speak..
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biggins
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Posted : Jul 18, 2002 18:27
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Greetings to you all,
its taken me a while to get round to joining but as i'm at work and theres little else to do...............
Anyway, state of the UK, i think on the sly its pretty good. Yes there are issues with certain nights. Naff venues and harsh security but to be fair i'm sure that this is a problem everywhere. There seems to be a number of upcoming gangs of people that are really trying to put something back into the UK trance scene. As tigga said earlier on this thread , Liquid and ID Spiral are plugging away and doing a very good job of it. Further north its a bit sketchier but there still a scene there, as well as Sunrise the is Relativity who are doing the full-on thing and there are people in Newcastle that i think might still be around.
Personnally i reckon there are two big problems in the UK. Number 1 is this whole progressive vs full-on. This is tedium at its utmost!! Both musics 'do it' for people so try and respect that.
The other issue is the lack of outdoor nights. Not inherently a bad thing but the more i think about it, the more i realise that for me this music should be an outdoor experience. Now the problem is that on this crowded isle there are few beautiful places to take yourself and a rig and have a big party. Having spent the best part of four or five days driving round mid-wales trying to find sites for one party this year its made me realise that to find an amazing site (as we very fortunately did) is very lucky. Although maybe i'm not looking hard enough or looking in the right places. Also up in the northwest, people doing parties up in the pennines have been shut down fairly rapidly cos there is no space and a lack of tolerance by the boys in blue.
Reading that it must sound like i'm just having a long whinge about things in this country but in reality this is not the case. The music being released at the moment is bloody good and its great to see the power being harnessed by people like Synthetic, GMS, Logic Bomb, all the 3D vision people etc....now all we need to to get said people up north!! |
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jon
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Posted : Jul 18, 2002 18:32
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well the plan at the moment is apparently to have an 'outdoor kundalini' in the second week of august, then later in september a massive kundalini in the brixton academy.... well that's the plan anyway. Hmm that weekend in august is looking a bit full.....what with space cat+xerox as well...
i don't think kundalini will be going back to the arches for a while. I think that farce with the tip.world party totally nuked their image.....
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tigga
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Posted : Jul 18, 2002 18:41
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yeah, and quite rightly so - a killer lineup was turned into the worst night in london i have had for many a year....
second weekend in august is liquid outdoor party as well so could well be a busy weekend, perhaps kundalini should postpone for a week....then we can all have a nice outdoor party both weekends...seeing as we get so few over here....
kundalini in brixton academy, eh? interesting - haven't been to a trance night at brixton academy, its certainly a great venue (apart from the sloping floor) and loads of space to squeeze all those kundalini punters :wink:
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tom anteater
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Posted : Jul 18, 2002 18:47
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that sloping floor is unbelievably annoying..
you wanna dance say halfway in but inexorably end uo at the front in an insane crush. i was at rtts there in july 2000 and this floor issue really dicked me off. anway, i think i might start a thread about venues..
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biggins
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Posted : Jul 19, 2002 18:24
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so you don't get into the way that you can make the floor bounce if you get enuff people stomping?
No fair play, it can be a bit tedious but when ever i've been i always seem to end up down the front anyway. Strangely enough there seems to be room to dance right at the front at most places. Even at 'that' Kundalini. Probably cos i smell or something
Reckon the academy has good aspects as well though, plenty of space to wander about in and get lost in. Especially if its all open and has good decor. Its also got a nice high ceiling which gives lloads of space for yer head to expand. Gets back to what i was saying about the outdoor thing.
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morph27
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Posted : Jul 19, 2002 18:38
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i think things in the UK are generally good - dont really get big acts anywhere outside London - but difficult i suppose due to cash! - down ere in Bristol we got PLanet Easton and Tribe of Frog doing the business, nice free parties thrown by the frogs outside in beautiful locations which always go's down well ! - I know its still summer and we shouldn't bring up the exodus from the fields back into the clubs but here's one for your diaries !
Dick Trevor (Ex Green Nuns)
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playing at Planet Easton - 4th October along with others who we haven't got round to booking yet:) l8ers |
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