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The Funktion 1 appreciation thread
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ocelot
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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 14:06
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jesus christ you people~!
its just a fucking brand of speaker cabinet
in the hands of someone who knows how to TUNE a soundsystem properly, anything reasonable can sound fantastic.
and there is nothing worse than a very loud and horn-loaded system (like funktion one) poorly tuned...
if we are talking line-arrays or multi (more than 16) cabinet stacks then i would almost say the mark doesn't matter- its Totally about controlling the individual drivers and their excursion, timing, and frequency response...
how about a "good sound person" appreciation thread?
seriously i''ve had it with this money-driven mark/brand obsessesed its-the-best-because-it-cost-me-a-lot mentality.
move to moscow get a ferrari and fuck off  (just kidding. don't fuck off. just get a ferrari. they are the best someone said)
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psy-junky
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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 15:11
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golden words ocelot:
so its all about the acoustics and tuning ..... the idea would be to get the most neutral sound not edging towards too bright with treble piercing your ears or too bassy where low frequency is all you can hear and all this can be done by a professionals who are good at tuning the system.
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gutter
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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 15:17
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come on,, the funktion 1 team are some specific ppl, trained for that thing,, not just the PA local company..
They come, set up the cabs, amplifiers, crossovers.. tune it perfect, and you have always an excellent sound as i got it, nothing more..
so most of the times this sound system is more credible than lots of others due to their concept too
and again it colors the sound, maybe it sound plastic too sometimes, but its very tight and precise anyway, its just taste not another bubble theory 
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Synops Effect
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Posted : Sep 3, 2009 11:22
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MsoB
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Posted : Sep 3, 2009 12:42
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On 2009-09-01 14:06, ocelot wrote:
how about a "good sound person" appreciation thread?
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+1 million |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 3, 2009 20:51
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ocelot
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Posted : Sep 4, 2009 13:04
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On 2009-09-01 15:17, gutter wrote:
come on,, the funktion 1 team are some specific ppl, trained for that thing,, not just the PA local company..
They come, set up the cabs, amplifiers, crossovers.. tune it perfect, and you have always an excellent sound as i got it, nothing more..
so most of the times this sound system is more credible than lots of others due to their concept too
and again it colors the sound, maybe it sound plastic too sometimes, but its very tight and precise anyway, its just taste not another bubble theory
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not necessarily.... i have seen many funktion one systems that were NOT set up by people from the company. in fact i have never seen a funktion one system set up as you describe, by folks from funktion1
where do they offer such services?
it would be ideal, after all, im sure they know what they are doing with their p.a. |
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gutter
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Posted : Sep 4, 2009 13:35
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^ ive been told that there a team from france and england that usually takes the PA and set it up, they did it for the chill out at Aurora, went in Glade too where they had everywhere Funktion, these where set up by the ppl of the company for sure, but yeah i cannot know whats happening in every country
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Sep 4, 2009 13:40
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Funny posts here but I don't like fast cars.
"brand"-ing or not,
Sure most professional systems can be tuned right. but still I'm using dynaudio monitors to make music and not a pair of HiFi speakers with a DSP to "tune them".
Good systems need less tuning - they sound better out of the box. I prefer them and I know some brands who simply know how that works better than others do...
Furthermore there are factors in speaker design that can't be compensated by tuning them with the means usually available to the people setting them up.
So far function 1 haven't impressed me, neither well tuned or not. Maybe they would have impressed me three years ago if I hadn't heard other systems (brands - sorry )
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gutter
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Posted : Sep 4, 2009 13:51
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^ this way i would really love a focal PA system to exist as well.. 100Kw of beryllium crystal sound lol .. the HiFi speakers job is to color the sound anyway, imho F1 do it well especially when in electronic music.. ive started to sound like advertising them, enough
if you like post the other brands and your impressions so more ppl can learn about other soundsystems as well
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Sep 4, 2009 17:59
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Years ago I heard a d&B System at a huge festival in Switzerland. It was incredible, when you stood like 300 meters away in a about 45degrees angle to the speakers it still sounded like listening music on a pair of decent HiFi speakers at home.
Last year I was involved in organizing the Somuna Festival in Switzerland and after VERY long evaluation I decided to hire the d&B Q-series line array. The festival is still legendary for its soundquality here in Switzerland. Many people in Switzerland were at the Somuna, then at Ozora and then at Boom where they had function one. Everybody I talked to definitly voted for the d&B. The Martin at the Ozora had no chance anyways, even though it sounds ok too.
The d&B system, in my opinion, really sounds like a pair of good studio speakers in XLARGE. They set the system up as it is only tuning the linearray parameters as for how many speakers used etc. - EQ: FLAT no adjustments and it sounded almost perfect.
It took one year until another Festival in Switzerland could reach that soundquality and it's not only me saying that. The Festival that did it was the SummerNeverEnds Festival and they used a Kling & Freitag Sequenza Linearray which is at least as good as the d&B but in my opinion a bit less musical.
I'm very sure, that everybody who has heard either the dB or KF system and the function 1 will know what I'm talking about. Function 1 sounds brilliant as long as you haven't heard something better. But there is better. It's just, you don't know how it COULD sound until you actually had the chance to hear it. The DB is extremely expensive so most people never hire it or get the chance to hear it.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 8, 2009 13:34
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On 2009-09-01 14:06, ocelot wrote:
and there is nothing worse than a very loud and horn-loaded system (like funktion one) poorly tuned...
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like a recent party here. everyone's ears hurt. funktion this funktion that, freaking tune it right or it doesn't matter what you bring.
The Way Back
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AumShantiAum
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Posted : Sep 11, 2009 05:48
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i think it goes without saying that the person who tunes the system is as important and essential as the djs and artists performing
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Kitnam
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Posted : Sep 11, 2009 13:33
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i think it works better on mid-sized floors like for 200-600 people.
on very big festival floors its still very good, but line-arrays just sound more clear when you have a long-range distance to them. from my experience you need to be very near (30 meters max) to the f1-system to get this special crisp picture which make them so special. so thats the reason why i think on very big floors its not the first choice but on small and mid-sized floors.
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Spasm
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 21:27
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On 2009-09-04 13:04, ocelot wrote:
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On 2009-09-01 15:17, gutter wrote:
come on,, the funktion 1 team are some specific ppl, trained for that thing,, not just the PA local company..
They come, set up the cabs, amplifiers, crossovers.. tune it perfect, and you have always an excellent sound as i got it, nothing more..
so most of the times this sound system is more credible than lots of others due to their concept too
and again it colors the sound, maybe it sound plastic too sometimes, but its very tight and precise anyway, its just taste not another bubble theory
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not necessarily.... i have seen many funktion one systems that were NOT set up by people from the company. in fact i have never seen a funktion one system set up as you describe, by folks from funktion1
where do they offer such services?
it would be ideal, after all, im sure they know what they are doing with their p.a.
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The club LUX in Lisbon, had major changes in the dance area, to support their new Funktion one system, by request of the brand itself and engineered by their technicians.
Changed the DJ booth, took all the mirrors, a lot of money was spent on cutting the corners, and inproving the whole structure of the room, changing what was a regular club, to the best club in the country.. soundwise. |
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