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				| D7uan IsraTrance Junior Member
 
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				| theendtone IsraTrance Junior Member
 
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						| yea right  maybe  for wannabes deejaays that never use a analog mixer need sync botton  etc .... just at mixer no booth out put ..and the serrato looks even more crappy than the djm 400 .....  like the traktor S4 a total crap
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				| Dennis the menace Moderator
 
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						| cds died for me once i got the new cdjs, i never played a disc in them. The new controller looks quite weak to be honest, No VU on the traktor edition, no xlr outs, no booth etc etc... 
 I remember one of the marketing guys on pioneer told me they would never ever support computer djs. And that was 2 years ago. I guess they couldnt resist to jump on the bandwaggon.
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				| theendtone IsraTrance Junior Member
 
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						| cds dont die for me cuz mostly all good  darkpsy come in cd format ........i use traktor for home use and have fun with other styles of music but never for play psytrance sure if will have cds 2000 i will use less cds  but in wich psy party they  got when they still  use cdj100 .....so i dont think  this controller  will kill cd at all @ denis  did u use  cdj 200o with time codes  or with usb straight to the player........the  question is if u use  with usb did u have latency or is the same feeling as the  player ?
 
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				| Shiranui IsraTrance Full Member
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						| If someone makes a traktor controller that has faders and knobs that feel as solid as a pioneer or rane mixer, I might actually use it. 
 My problem with most DJ controllers is that the controls feel like toys, I'm afraid I'm going to break them.
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				| Shiranui IsraTrance Full Member
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						| And $1300?! that's kind of a high price when you consider you must also buy a laptop to use it with. |  
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				| theendtone IsraTrance Junior Member
 
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On 2011-01-12 19:50, Shiranui wrote:
 If someone makes a traktor controller that has faders and knobs that feel as solid as a pioneer or rane mixer, I might actually use it.
 
 My problem with most DJ controllers is that the controls feel like toys, I'm afraid I'm going to break them.
 
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 i agree but pioneer mixers  sucks  ^^
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				| Shiranui IsraTrance Full Member
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						| Pioneer mixers are maybe not the best but to say they "suck" is exaggeration. There are many many cheap mixers that are much worse than pioneer. |  
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				| Upavas Upavas
 
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				| psy-junky IsraTrance Junior Member
 
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						| lot of recommendations for ecler here .... is allen and heath better than say rane/ecler? 
 Im eyeing a a&h xone 22, its available for $300.
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				| Dennis the menace Moderator
 
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On 2011-01-12 16:08, theendtone wrote:
 
 @ denis  did u use  cdj 200o with time codes  or with usb straight to the player........the  question is if u use  with usb did u have latency or is the same feeling as the  player ?
 
 
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 I use them with timecodes sometime, ive put the timecode on a SD card and works just like if it was on cd. Using HID over usb also works but i prefer timecodes until they fix the advanced hid. I dont use the internal soundcards in the players, they suck imho since i have to aggregate the players so i cant really give my opinion on latency from the cdj's.
 
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				| theendtone IsraTrance Junior Member
 
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						| yes i use  traktor  with  time in my cdj 800 mk1  but just for home party and home no psytrance at all  the only good thing i see is loop  and cues that  BTW  will not  work at all in darkpsy but for other styles of musik can fun and  creative ............ but  from that that  cheap  pioneer machine  will kill cd  very far .....buying cds still special  than digital format cuz art work  wating for  cd come  is something there ....... so   for me cds not dead!!! on ecler mixer  ooOhh  yes  i prefer 1000  time  my old nuo 3 than a pioneer 800...............and  rane allen &heaht are totally superior (pioneer fx are  cheesy)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				| Login IsraTrance Full Member
 
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On 2011-01-13 07:13, psy-junky wrote:
 lot of recommendations for ecler here .... is allen and heath better than say rane/ecler?
 
 Im eyeing a a&h xone 22, its available for $300.
 
 
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 I will say the three are at the top. Its will be your taste and budget for making a decision.
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				| Ascension IsraTrance Full Member
 
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				| Shiranui IsraTrance Full Member
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						| The digital pioneer mixers are definitely better than the analog ones |  
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