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Posted : Jan 23, 2012 23:09:46
Hello guys, this is my latest work.
I would love to hear what you think about the track.
Have fun listening and thanx a lot for your time. Hope it was worth it
klippel
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Posted : Jan 24, 2012 08:48
the arrangement is somewhat strange, iŽll go through my thoughts:
intro ok, bit too "arpeggio" the melody, is a bit unorganic in the flow.
first break is really early, and what the hell is that superlow bass after the break doing there?
as soon as you go to the "normal" baseline of the later parts the tracks starts to work imo. nice sounds going around there, mixed a bit too sharp and dry for my taste. work on delay and reverb to make more space. kick/bass clean and ok, could be a bit fatter though. after the 2nd break and the bit sterile vocal part it gets really nice in the end. some more vatiations to the final melody and/or nice thick reverb and you have a great ending there!!
to sum up: great potential, nice style, so far weird and strangely put together but with some changes you are on a good way!
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel "I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons
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Posted : Jan 24, 2012 15:16
The superlow bass part was to have a bit of change going around that post intro part.
So with the low bass there would be a low energy feeling associated with it.
Might change it, put it an octave up, like the others, and cut out the high freqs to get a simular efect.
With the sounds, I think I know what you mean, they are a bit mechanical, only one sound at once, they need to flow more together.
Thanx for you thoughts daark and klippel Analysis and Organization for Refinement
makus
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Posted : Jan 25, 2012 00:53
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On 2012-01-24 15:16, Freymuth wrote:
The superlow bass part was to have a bit of change going around that post intro part.
Change of what? It is just 54 sec as the track started, nothing yet happened, what you need to change? Hands over the bass
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So with the low bass there would be a low energy feeling associated with it.
Might change it, put it an octave up, like the others, and cut out the high freqs to get a simular efect.
Try to develop your leads horizontally. Try to play your synths, not just pick random sounds and paste them on a loop basis.
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With the sounds, I think I know what you mean, they are a bit mechanical, only one sound at once, they need to flow more together.
They aren't mechanical, they are just dry and stand out of the mix too much. That's mixing mistake, not timbre selection.
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Posted : Jan 25, 2012 01:58
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Posted : Jan 25, 2012 02:29
Thanx for your time makus, your comment is full of inspiration to get better What do you mean by making the leads more horizontally? Making more changes in the melody I guess.
About the mix, I have to be honest, I dont understand one thing about it, can you tell me what I need to do to make a good mix, or where is a good source to read about it?
The bass, Im trying to defend it, I like it because if it was all the same till the second brake it would be a bit boring. So having a low part at the begining where not a lot is going on made it a bit more exciting when it goes up to the normal bassline.
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Posted : Jan 25, 2012 03:00
mixing to me is just what it sounds like - mixing the different sounds that you've picked out together and having them sound good in relation to each other without clashing or sticking out...
the general starter 'rules' that I see around here tend to be:
1 - 'aim' to peak your track at -6 DB. This is good practice because this leaves a good amount of headroom for mastering engineer or yourself later on.
2 - start with your kick/bass and everything else zero'd out - make it so that your kick/bass are peaking in between -7 and -10 DB and then mix in everything else to taste.
apart from that - just do what sounds good. The more you mix, the more precise your ear will get. You also need to develop a good working relationship with essential tools like EQ, delay, reverb etc.
klippel
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Posted : Jan 25, 2012 08:47
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On 2012-01-25 02:29, Freymuth wrote:
The bass, Im trying to defend it, I like it because if it was all the same till the second brake it would be a bit boring. So having a low part at the begining where not a lot is going on made it a bit more exciting when it goes up to the normal bassline.
its your track in the end and all about taste so not really much to argue about it anyway. if you like it as is, keep it. but posting here is for feedback, so:
i would assume the artist presses the wrong key when hearing this part in a live act. it sounds "wrong" in this context. i totally agree with makus, why step down in pace after 50sec in a track? the track has not even started to move really at this point! if you need a weird sounding bass break in less then a minute to make things more interesting then go back and try to tell a different more entertaining story from the start to make it more interesting, no?
makus
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Posted : Jan 25, 2012 10:40
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On 2012-01-25 02:29, Freymuth wrote:
Thanx for your time makus, your comment is full of inspiration to get better What do you mean by making the leads more horizontally? Making more changes in the melody I guess.
About the mix, I have to be honest, I dont understand one thing about it, can you tell me what I need to do to make a good mix, or where is a good source to read about it?
The bass, Im trying to defend it, I like it because if it was all the same till the second brake it would be a bit boring. So having a low part at the begining where not a lot is going on made it a bit more exciting when it goes up to the normal bassline.
You are welcome!
Yes, you got me right, just develop the sounds, instead of adding new ones.
Don't worry about the mix too much, Will gave you some initial directions, use them, but mixing skills will come. It is something that needs a bit of learning, training and time. Klippel has the point too.
Source of learning mixing? Is any sources other than Google left there? Ah, youtube maybe.
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Posted : Jan 25, 2012 20:49
Ill take your advices in consideration on the next work I like the idea of a gradual growth, so I hope that the next track will be better than this one.
Thank you all for your feedback!
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klippel
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Posted : Jan 26, 2012 09:06
not sure if "man" is the right word in this case makus http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel "I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons
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Posted : Jan 26, 2012 10:34
