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daark
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 18:50
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 19:00
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 19:02
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 19:09
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On 2009-06-29 18:03, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
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Thanks Moti. Where can we see the data and your statistical working-out? Also, how did you verify your results - did you get someone independant to check your data and maths?
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my data has been raised with statistic software SPSS and proved by the software itself. this is the one to check my numbers.
but since i have experience in this field, i can even make conclusions without the software, because i can do it without.
but since this is a joke, you will not see any numbers about my conclusion about trance. if you feel okey while treating women the way you do, then it is up to you. who am i to judge.
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What data did you include, and what statistical analysis did you run on it? I'm no mathematician but I'm sure there are some people reading this thread who will be able to appreciate it, and they can tell those of us who are interested but uneducated in this area whether or not the data and analysis are sound.
Don't be afraid, this 'peer review' (ie. a review of your method, data and results by your peers) is something that all mathematical and scientific papers and theories have to go through before they are accepted.
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daark
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 19:24
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no really guys look at the result , how cool is that
if you take equal intervals than it sounds like bebop scale even when the intervals are larger than usual
maybe if we take the ratio of minor and major and make the distance between notes larger maybe it'll sound the same too !
im on it
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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daark
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 19:51
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damn it of course it is what a dumbfuck i actualy calculated it damn
its obviously a triad
i smoke too much my brain works wrong
lol what a bunch of crap well great too calculate it and see the flawlessness and perfection of musical theory and physics
its obviously a sign for me to repeat these stuff again
no i am not genius(i should listen to the voices in my head that said dude isn't it a triad?but no i had to prove it to myself)
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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daark
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 20:11
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wow i learned so much about sound through the chaos theory thank you moki i did not saw those things before so clear(i probably get just a tiny part) and those strange attractors are so psychedelic
thank you for raising that up 
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 20:51
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the strange attractors are something like a basic curriculum for anyone who wants to call himself a trancer. )) it is almost like the om on your bag and shiva on your case and laptop. )))
you have to know the strange attractors because they are the fractals. and our scene would look very different without fractals in terms of a visual appearance. but am i talking about "our" scene . i stopped going to parties because of these or other forums. i dont belong to it.
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but why dont you believe me and would believe others? :'9 okey, we already cleared this out.
well, yes, would be nice to know who can speak with me in the issue of statistics and spss:)).
unfortunately you take exactly the point into comment which was a joke. of course i havent done research on the role of the females in trance and in classical music and i havent stated what is the significance of this connection.
but i can speak in terms of statistics for the rest of the theory.
it has to be clear, that
- the idea or hypothesis about the five intervals is not a part of the theory of cousto. and it has to be clear that although he stated, that the frequency of om is the same as the one of the earth frequency, he is a very logical mind in his approach. i talked with him once about god. i realized that he is scientist then.
and btw as hofmann said, only an uncompleted understanding of natural applied sciences, can lead to atheism. you have to look at the natural world and through science you have to see at the end that science is not the last frontier. science is not enough to explain the quantum theory.
i wish you could ask me the same with any other scientifical issue from this thread. i can do the statistics for you and then even post you the numbers. if this is what is the first level of approval for a theory. i can even lie with statistics very well. they educated me to do this. actually i could prove anything i want with statistics and numbers. but if you take into comment another fact from this thread, and not exactly the joke, then i can probably also give you numbers.
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 20:52
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btw daark i cant open this, but i will try from the other laptop right now? are you joking or trying to say something?
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daark
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 21:36
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i don't really know how you got to chaos theory and strange attractors but if you divide the normal octave to 5 what you get is this http://rapidshare.de/files/47702484/CosmicOctave.mp3.html (my sine generator was not alright before)
this absolutely the right one not so different from the other one and no its not a triad as i thought.
first note 432
second 518.4
third 604.8
fourth 691.2
fifth 777.6
next first 864
(i would gladly calculate the result if the fifth would be the prima of the scale)
this Cousto guy wrote it is not proven in music in the intorduction part of the website and offers those forks as healing and meditation.Just like tibetian bowls.
At least this is what i got... http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 22:14
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oh perfect. finally we have a more interesting post that demands for more intellectual striving.
are you aware (can you interprete rationally ) what kind of division you used in the generator to divide the octave into five? what kind of intervals were used in this division? what was the constant value of the cents for the basic interval?
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 22:15
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about cousto - he has unfortunately no website ...so it is all in the books which are not even fully translated. i have to bring him to speech in english....
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daark
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 22:48
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EMM yeah sorry he is more sure of himself then i thought
i made a list of the frequencies in that scale
you take regular octave and divide into five
because all intervals are equal it sounds like bebop scale to me. Anyway it was nice to see that the ratio between intervals is the thing that gives the scale the character and not the frequencies them selves and not the regular octave distance
That is why indian music has indian character and arabic its own cause of the order of ratios(those are mainly based on hearing). And you can add any note and give it your own character native american .Alien music, whatever.
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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daark
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 22:58
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but you know it makes sense to me now.earth spins by the power of gravity i figured all is connected in this crazy universe and this stuff could be very true if i find some proof for that...could be very true
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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Kane
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 23:31
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On 2009-06-29 18:48, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
anyone who is not capable of understanding the theory will tell me that i have no idea what i am talking about. and this will be done by the majority. because the majority does not understand the theory.
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I would really love to understand any theory you want to talk about at this point, as long as it's related to music and not spirituality or alternative medicine. There are other sections here and other forums if that's your focus.
Yes, we have all of this information about various resonances, but why should we do anything with them? What's the point of this thread? I tried A432 when the other thread was going on and thought it was a waste of time. I've looked at all of the links you posted and read everything you've said and none of it had any scientific reliability.
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if you feel okey while treating women the way you do, then it is up to you.
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Please stop saying things like that. They're sexist and insulting. It's rude to assume that Colin (and everyone else here) is so narrow minded that he can't view you as an individual, and it's really arrogant to completely ignore personal responsibility for the things you're saying.
You believe in the users?
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