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the cosmic octave and mathematics
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 00:38
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hm , the conversation is not negative in my personal window, but it is all about the consensual reality and not about the personal window.
well anyway, i perceive this whole conversation not as a negative thing and dont even want to turn it into a case of discordance between the coordinates of personal views...
i am happy to see other views than mine. because i cant investigate in in a critical way...
oh, and one more thing...
the strange attractors are the main secret. which is the interval. because okey, the octave itself can be seen as a constant but not the intervalls...in between...
well anyway, sorry if this interaction has in any way negative consequences for you, wish it is not like that:))
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 02:45
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On 2009-06-29 00:38, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
hm , the conversation is not negative in my personal window, but it is all about the consensual reality and not about the personal window.
well anyway, i perceive this whole conversation not as a negative thing and dont even want to turn it into a case of discordance between the coordinates of personal views...
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We agree on this too 
Chart still in the pipeline, I've been distracted  But I will get back on this point - I suspect you already know what is coming up, but it may be of interest to peeps anyways
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Kane
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 03:11
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Don't have time to read some of these 3 page posts but,
1. Marketers are NOT your friends. It's ridiculous to assume that they're genuinely concerned with science or your health when they're doing it to make money.
2. "Alternative medicine has either not been proved to work or been proved not to work. You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? Medicine."
Anyway, back to the MUSIC. This is where it actually gets interesting.
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 09:53
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Speakafreaka ,
nice, so we can continue:). dont get distracted:)
btw , don't you mean the harmonic series and the overtones? i have one diagram but it is in the book of cousto...the problem is the difference between diatonic and chromatic.
sure it could be of need to know what are the basic principles of an octave. i tell you, i had one of the most ridiculous times in my life in another forum ( german) where they were telling me 18 pages long that i cant distinguish between a scale and an octave and that i cant get the point that an octave is the double frequency( with the reason blond borderline and too stupid). can you imagine:)). did not expect it. i cant have a serious conversation with ppl like that ,who call themselves musicians but dont even know the basic things about the interval. the most basic things.
i was talking with akasha project about this forum ( mean goabase) and he had exactly the same feeling about it.
oh and btw, in case you really think that anyone earns money - neither akasha, nor planetware nor cousto have got lots of money with this. no body sells here anything. it is about the concept. if i wanted to do marketing in isratrance, i would never ever be so informal.
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 10:17
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actually i realized then finally that the scene is really anti female. which is the sad thing. but it is true for the majority. everyone believes that he is scientifically much more informed than any lady and knows much more about mathematics and intervals and physics. but it is simply not the case.
i ask you if you can imagine it, but no, you cant imagine. be happy if you dont understand german. especially with the thing that they are the only ones powerful to have german as a mother language and to know that an octave is sth else than a scale. we, the others, have never heard of this fact. the blonder you are, the more far away you are from the fact that the octave is the double freqeuncy. anyway, i need a break from the internet. if i have more videos, i come back.
hope the mods will not close the topic. at least move it , if needed. but as you see, i am interested to talk about things that only musicians know.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 12:07
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Personally I had no idea if you are male or female. I don't think it factored into anyone else's thoughts on the matter.
I don't think anyone knew you were blond either and I'm not sure what hair color has to do with this topic.
On a side note, German is not my mother language but I understand it. I actually find Germans to be much more open to foreigners and communicating in a second language (English, in my case) than most other nations in general.
I just wish the Germans would give me my damn visa already! I feel like I'm doing circus tricks at this point. 
But that doesn't have to do with the topic. I'm just ranting.
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 12:46
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well whatever. hope we are not gonna change the topic now:)
i dont like to generalize on germans any more. but i can say about goabase, that i have never seen something like that in my whole life. in comparison the topics here in isratrance on the 432 hz are like a funny entertainment with good friends. you know.
whatever it is. in goabase they even offend cousto so what can i expect from them at all. but the least i expect is that they dont tell me that i cant understand the difference between an octave and a scale and not with the most disguisting words you can call a woman - we are the powerful to speak german , you "censored". this is not "german". none of the germans i know has ever treated me so. so whatever, to me it plays even less role what is my colour. it is fucking same.
i want to hear something on the facts instead. i want to hear about the atractors instead. i want to spend my time with intelligent talking instead of talking about violence on me in public and generally supporting this in public. whatever. german is not my mother language either, but i have successfully studied in german so i could say that i know enough to talk on the octave.
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 12:48
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you see, it is not a problem of the words. it is a problem that people who have no idea what is chromatic and diatonic and what is pentatonic and what is a cent, they are the ones to call me stupid and blond. you know. whatever
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 13:26
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but last thing about the female thing.
i noticed that it is statistically significant that females are more attracted to harmonics and classical music.
males are more attracted to taking one single note and modulate it, change it by means of software and then make music out of one single note.
and i noticed that it is statistically significant that they all try to put you aside as being too "female" - it is impossible that i female can understand any scientific approach better right?. so she will only be accepted in the PSY SOCIETY if she takes this role of someone who has less idea about technics, mathematics and production. if she doesnt, she is lost.
well, whatever, this is the last thing i said on this issue. i dont believe that it is regional. about goabase. it is not so much about germans or whatever. it is about the majority of this scene. it is about the majority you meet at festivals.
from here on, i will only take into account posts that are ON THE ISSUE of harmonics. about attractors, quantums, chaos theory, strange attractors, mandelbrot fractals, and golden means. and electromagetism. the rest i cant comment any more.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 13:57
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On 2009-06-29 13:26, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
but last thing about the female thing.
i noticed that it is statistically significant that females are more attracted to harmonics and classical music.
males are more attracted to taking one single note and modulate it, change it by means of software and then make music out of one single note.
and i noticed that it is statistically significant that they all try to put you aside as being too "female" - it is impossible that i female can understand any scientific approach better right?. so she will only be accepted in the PSY SOCIETY if she takes this role of someone who has less idea about technics, mathematics and production. if she doesnt, she is lost.
well, whatever, this is the last thing i said on this issue. i dont believe that it is regional. about goabase. it is not so much about germans or whatever. it is about the majority of this scene. it is about the majority you meet at festivals.
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Please can you give us more detail about these statistics? Who collected the data and did the analysis, and where can we read about it?
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 15:11
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I'm wondering how such things can be measured using statistics also.
One thing is true, though, 86 out of every 100 statistics are made up on the spot.
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 15:34
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Once upon a time there was a beautiful girl named Harmonics. Lived a simple life out in the nature happily. The handsome bohemian Prince Quantum was having his usual walk in the forest and suddenly an attractor appeared.
His twisted evil mind drew a plan.
The chaos theory
He would make Harmonics and prince Quantum fall in love ..
But for that to happen Harmonics will have to be tuned at 44Hz
So he dropped some white noise in the forest and harmonics screamed so loud and finally passed out..
Prince Quantum heard the scream and run to see what was happening* when he saw harmonics, thunderous love hit him
She felt the same
He saved Harmonics and married her
In the marriage they invited the strange attractors out of gratitude and their families
There were Quantum Dust everywhere, some Comet friends, a few Equations etc
On the brides side where also some good friends and relatives, Headroom, Aliasing, some Digital peaks (before audio processing) and a couple of notch filters
Everyone had a great celebration for this marriage, they drink and ate huge amounts of mandelbrot fractals and golden means
Everyone lived electromagnified after that
End
the meaning of story:
golden means golden beans
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 16:35
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strange statement in case the whole theory of the big bang and the scientific approach about the universe is based on statistics.
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moki
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 16:41
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well if you ask me that politely, i cant say no. ))
i did the experiment and i did the statistics myself.
i collected data about the psy society myself. and about the rest of the society in comparison.
i put the female participation in the trance scene in relation to the male and compared this number with the same relation outside of trance.
then i put the female interpreters in classical music in relation to the male ones. und i compared this relation to the relation between the sexes in other professions. i got significantly important answers by means of statistics.
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daark
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Posted : Jun 29, 2009 17:16
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you are sexist and narcisist
you are way totaly wrong if you had an idea you would not ask those questions you are so lost in your own mind and it is a big shame for your intentions might be good but selfish.
What you are talking about is not only wrong from the root but has no sense or proof in reality.You are so attached to your own mind and perspective and being right seems to be the most important thing to you.
My advice to you drop it. You have no idea about what you are talking about.Rethink all that you know.We gave you the answer 300 times already and you missed it yourself in the links.
You are wrong your theory is wrong.You took to much on yourself.Go chill out.Listen to some beautiful music.Look at the miracle of reality and find something new to concern yourself with.
The musical THEORY is working fine and physics are alright too.PROVEN in reality.
I let you divide the octave into five for yourself genius.Because i just cant.
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