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the cosmic octave and mathematics
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moki
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Posted : Jul 29, 2009 15:12
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oh and actually much more than this. we discussed the golden means in the music.
- quantum theory
- chaos theory, attractors, dynamic field, linera nd non linear matrix
-butterflyeffect, 8 hz
- vectors of horoscopic music
- pentagram and the meaning of the number five
- hexagram and platonic objects
- pythagorean comma and 23,5 cent
- the octave measured as cent, the equal tempered music
- statistics and significance in the research
- holistic medicine and trreatment of cancer
+ timewavezero. terrence mckenna and streange attractors
+ pentatonics, dividing the octave into five
+ fibonacci series
so you call all of this a waste of time??
well, then you might need to look for a better entertainment instead? we dont want bored users walking around here....
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Jul 29, 2009 15:18
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I listened to akasha project.
I can understand they want to let the sound resonate long so they make atmospheric music. but i loose interest with all the apreggiator repetitions.
I was looking for something more goa-trancy. like giana.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 29, 2009 16:04
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oh and one more thing dear mandari:
it is good that you recommend akasha, but have you actually asked yourself why these videos of mine are presented on http://www.planetware.de ? what is the reason that they are there?
if you respect akasha and planetware, as you say you do, is it not logical that you also respect the fact that someone went to make those videos, prepared them for the internet, let them be streamed and whatever? what is the purpose to tell me that all the posts after post 3 were a waste of time? are all those issues above a waste of time in this forum? in any forum about trance??? you dont see any facts?
and if yes, i want to know, why is it a bad thing to go to court against trance then??? why not? i find the way they think about what is trance more than offending to the human species.
i mean, may be i am too different from you, but i would try to respect those who help spreading the knowledge around by doing videos about it and writing pages and pages on the points above. and believe me, it was not easy to talk on these points above with the level of intelligence that is spreaded in this fucked up world. but i did it. and i did it again. actually i have summed up the value of "psycho pain" in 25000,- euro for the court.
and i just say that i could finally use a bit of intelligence and my background in real life and just look for some justice in this world. tell me that i am what you call me in goabase - but tell me that in the court. you can start a petition for collecting money for keeping goabase alive from today.
actually i would be ashamed if such ridiculous facts were spreaded as right in goabase if i was a native german. the octave has nothing to do with cents and WE GERMANS are against anyone who tells us that the cents have to do with an octave and that the intervalls vary from culture to culture. i am ashamed even as a non native german.
i dont wanna be a part of this culture in this way it is. and now i even have to explain why i am wasting your precious time? what about considering that you are wasting mine?????????????????????????
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-=Mandari=-
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Posted : Jul 29, 2009 16:18
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i dont regret anything, i fell not ashamed about anything and at least i never said u waist my or anyone else time and nothing about "after three pages blah" ....
BUT i can say that i waist MY time here.....
cheers 
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moki
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Posted : Jul 29, 2009 17:44
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but you seem to like it , dont you?
you enjoy it even, right?
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i dont think so. the information on the previous thread was not complete and even wrong in some parts and besides no one there ever mentioned the science behind it deeper. it was mostly only the synchronicities with the numbers and no full description of anything. not even the cents.
here in this thread i talked about the strange attractors mostly and about physics. and about music theory. with the exeption of the first 5 pages, or sth, nothing else has been said about spiritual mambo jumbo or other useless subjective things that cannot be proved.
but if you waste your time - well then stop doing this. look, axis mundi also decided not to waste his time in the forum and to come to listen to cosmic tones in my flat instead. i should make an open door once a week in berlin - may be i finally get rid of the lies of the ppl who never saw me.
and btw this is exactly the problem. you are not ashamed. but actually you should, because in goabase it is spreaded that THIS is the opinion of all germans ( the octave has nothing to do with cents and all intervalls are the same in german) and i have another opinion only because i dont belong to the germans , which is the really sick thing.
whatever. i finally fly in 5 hours, so calm down, i am leaving you to live in trance.
to me it would be a real entertainment to go to court , to film it, maybe germany will decide to change the standarf pitch after the court case again. rest of europe follows. and it will be such fun to send the court case live with cam in the internet. just imagine the news. timewavezero tv in court against the trance culöture of nowadays. protecting the sacred! whatever, i wanna do black lists for the trance scene now. i will put all ppl who i believe that have nothing to do with music and with trance. because they were not only germans in goabase, there were also others who pissed me off.
whatever. i just cant believe that i can have been so stupid so many years not to understand how fucked up this scene is.
but whatever. i am flying away. spread your half knowledge further.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 29, 2009 19:08
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and btw is there a mod reading here??
can you please suggest what we do further with this topic and let me know?
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sorry i cant share a discussion with posts like this. they either go outside of my topic or the topic is closed. and you can ban me or whatever, i can live with anything, but i cant live with such posts like this. you either tell me an argument about the scientific things that i mention, or you fuck off. correct me, tell me why i am wrong, i hear with pleasure the opponents but i cant waste my time with such posts.
i have said enough and discussed enough with interested people. to call this nonsense is offending and btw quite stupid since there were some very informative pages here. and i still dont hear even one intelligent argument gainst it other that i refuse to prove. because i am woman. your problem is that you too intellectually insufficient to understand that i am talking to you about science and that i know what i am talking about more than you do.
tell me what we do with this topic.
i dont wanna share knowledge with idiots and have no time for them.
as such posts have not even one serious on topic argument, i suggest, that they either get moved from my discussion or the discussion is closed.
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Posted : Jul 29, 2009 19:51
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Suloo
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Posted : Jul 29, 2009 23:30
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intellectually insufficient....great
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jul 30, 2009 02:12
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On 2009-07-26 20:00, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
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On 2009-07-23 00:42, Freeflow wrote:
*eLliSDee* - yeah lets solve this... im not good at math at all but i would like to learn more
here is a website about ratio and how to calculate them...
http://www.webmath.com/k8ratio.html
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do you really need this link my friend???:)))
it is more simple than you imagine. open the link with the graph above. you see:
an octave is equal to 1200 cent.
if you divide this octave to 12 equal parts, you have the same intervals for each point of separation ( these are the black points in the graphic).
and you see the EQUAL TEMPERED DIVISION.
but if you take the interval 3:2 as a main dividing factor, then it looks different:
so, if you start with an A of 432 hz , then you get THROUGH THE INTERVAL OF 3:2 the frequency for your D will be 288hz. and the frequency for your E will be 648 hz:
648:432=3:2
you see????????????????????
it is ALL ABOUT THE DIVISION....
hope you are not offended that i am " teaching". actually i am not teaching but i cant stand the false facts being spread around any more.especially if there is no serious argument other than my personality and sexuality and level of stupidity. actually i am so near to going to court because of the forum idiots in goabase that you cant even imagine.
so you can actually bann anyone who has a different opinion than yours, but if you ban people who spread the right facts instead of believing the bullshit in goabase, then it is exactly fascism what you do.
and especially if you say : " you cant tell me what is an octave because i am the powerful to know and speak german - then it fascism pure. this is what is called fascism.
the octave is a term that is quite international . no one has the right to tell me not to speak on the octave in german.
so actually it will be so much better if there would be a different trance culture for idiots and dummies. and another for the rest.
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Thanks Moki  i will try and learn 
you shouldnt care about idiots and instead do what can be done =)
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Dancing_Zombies
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Posted : Jul 31, 2009 19:54
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Hi Love that you posted this i was actually studying this stuff recently. Im going to recording engineering school at the moment and I actually had a teacher which had an entire lecture on these subjects. I have pointed him to the forum hopefully he will join the conversion.
I didnt read the entire thread because I have to run to a class but here is something That you all might find interesting sorry if this info was already posted. Ill read the whole thread later and i have some ideas to run buy you all.
Ps there is always going to be some one that disagrees with you and the best thing is try to have an intelligent conversation with them about it or just ignore them
http://www.lunarsight.com/freq.htm
www.dancingzombies.com
www.facebook.com/dancingzombies
www.myspace.com/dancingzombies |
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moki
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Posted : Aug 1, 2009 20:49
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Hello dears,
thanks for nice words (+smiles:)
i want to give you another very important link.
i finally found something interesting about the healing of cancer with frequencies .
it is called zapper and is developed by dr. clark (american and female). you can find a lot of links and books in the internet, but here is a start:
http://www.raydionics.com/zapper.htm
i bought this one for my father because i intend to heal his cancer with this zapper. on wednesday we start ( after a couple of chemotherapy sessions).
actually this is something new to me and i am gonna read a couple of books on it till then. but i think i finally have what i have been looking for so long. i always thought that i will need a hospital to do this try but the zapper is actually quite easy to handle even at home. you can even build it yourself.
hope to find some universal truths after this experiment. there are specific frequencies for each desease. well, definitely worth a try. i will inform you after that what happened.
till then, wish you a nice time and after i get back to germany i will post the other video session with hans cousto.
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Aug 3, 2009 10:19
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Aug 3, 2009 10:26
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apparently, from the link, "The z3ta+ software synthesizer will be the world-first virtual instrument to feature the Hermode Tuning technology."
I haven't seen such a feature on the Z3ta.
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Posted : Aug 3, 2009 11:57
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i also wish all good with the zapper, i´ve seen this about one year ago, but i cant trust in it. anyway didnt try, so would be nice to know about the results.
secondly i would have to buy a MP zapper (morbus parkinson) which i mean is not that very helpful as MP physical indicated here (no way to heal it just by the help of the zapper). on the other side it maybe helps on MP indicated not that way (psych. trauma, etc.).
and i mean this really from the heart 
but pls dont forget this is a very very narrow way of pseudoscientifical medicine and many use it to sell their more than dubious "healling" tools. i not only mean the zapper now. it´s maybe for different kind of disease something that works. maybe.... on the other side there´s tons of stuff not working, just pls remind that.
anyway i dont wanna talk bad about it now, for anyone interested in this and why it maybe works also have a look at this. i´m sorry that it´s only in german :
http://www.pilhar.com/Hamer/NeuMed/Kurzeinf/Ausloser/dhs.htm
pls if u speak german read it all as i got really my mind changed about cancer and other disease after reading. it should be easily possible to anyone interested to get the point of it.
i hope u will find help and i wish u really all the best for this and hope u will succeed on this with whatever tool wheither if it´s zapper nor your synth tuned to any cosmic freq.
believe it or not, cheers
FUCK GENRES, LOVE MUSIC!!!!
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vafl
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Posted : Aug 3, 2009 12:44
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@Moki.Time.Wave.Zero
hope u got big speakers bcs some frequencies are really low and inaudible with small speakers. |
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