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the cosmic octave and mathematics
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moki
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Posted : Jul 27, 2009 09:42
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11,93 cent i mean:). this is the difference to the standard pitch 440hz for saturn for your synth, for modulating.
btw did you know what is the cent difference of the so called pythagorean comma ( see the graphic we discussed above) :
23,5 cent. this is the pythagorean comma.
for the number fanatics.  ))
http://www.jomarpress.com/nagel/articles/PythagoreanComma.html
but okey, i understand i have to write less somehow. may be we have to really move to spoken word and visual appearance.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 27, 2009 10:09
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i dont know if it so difficult to understand the pythagorean comma. but it is wise to try. it is wise to know what pythagoras had to say.
it is very very simple actually.
and it bothers me a lot that i have to respect idiots doing trance who call me the worst fascistoid words just because i tell them that the octave can be measured by many different way other than through the ratio of 1:2. just check the pythagorean comma and you understand everything. ) if you dont have an irreparable intellectual deficite)
well i hope someone does. because if the goabase idiots are representative for the trance culture, then you can forget that i will show any respect towards people who talk only false things about music with the attutude of superior knowledge and get absolutely violent if someone corrects them who has studied music. what a scene we have????????????????
but okey, actually i have to go to holiday and spend some time away from internet. it was simply too much on goabase. i have to get out of this kindergarden. i cant get any respect towards such people correcting me all the time wrong and even banning me. i dont even offend them and never told them what they are- idiots. i am so polite actually.
actually if i finally go to court for fascist discrimination of my visions and expression, instead of explaining you the octave, i would have at least the money to cover the streaming expenses on my website:))))). whatever. i think that it will be very good for all of us just to realize that places like goabase are the last place to have to do anything with trance at all. you can be tausands, you can be millions. but you dont have the vision. you dont even have a music theory knowledge. so dont waste my time with bad production please.
i dont know why i cant feel any respect for the pseudo stars of the trance scene.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 27, 2009 11:08
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On 2009-07-27 00:17, Zork wrote:
sad thing with planet wave is , that these frequencies are limited to specific bpm values..
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No they're not. A wave of any frequency can be laid over any bpm, and depending on how you want to fit it, you can cut it up and rearrange it, retrigger it, or any number of things to it while still keeping it the same wavelength.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 27, 2009 13:46
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he means that there are specific bpms for each of these frequencies. for instance saturn has to be played with 138,6 bpm or 69,3 bpm.
as i said already, 138,6 bpm is the same thing as 2,31 hz which is the 31st octave of the original saturn tone.
but to me it looks logical that we dont have to cover the frquency twice for the audible spectrum.
we can cover the spectrum of colours only. once for colour and once for a frequency. and no bpm. but this is only my personal assumption. according to the theory we have, it has to be played with the specific bpm for more resonance.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 27, 2009 20:25
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or is this also difficult to understand about the bpms???????????
do you understand what i just said??????????????????
i have no idea what is difficult for you to understand because i have only my head to compare. if i knew where it is difficult to follow the theory, i would be much more tolerant and patient with anyone. to me it is all very simple....
whatever. if you think i was joking about going to court because of fascist discrimination of my VISION, you are very wrong. i am not joking. i am actually quite dissapointed with anyone that i know in germany, because of not taking part in this conflict in goabase . it cannot be possible that no one knows what is an octave in trance germany????????????????????? i told for instance akasha project and hans cousto what is happening in the forums, they both find it very sad.
no one has the right to tell me to shut up without any serious argument. it was not even a spiritual discussion - it was all because i am saying that the octaves and the intervals are not the same for all cultures. but the block buster mentality of some of the developed countries is more than pathetic. can you imagine - i am telling them that an octave is divided into cents and they tell me that a cent has nothing to do with an octave and that it is not like that in germany and i cant speak about it in german better than they do.
i will not tolerate idiots in my life any more. had more than enough of them in the world of trance. i will go to holidays now and if i still cant forget the idiots after my holidays - i am really going to court. lets see what germany will say then.
and no, i am not gonna be interested in any event or other part of goabase, because it is exactly the person who owns goabase who tells me that all intervalls are the same and i dont know anything about the octave. he is also supporting the idiots who threaten with violence by proving them right.
i cannot believe that it is so fucking unimportant for anyone what is going on in this scene nowadays. i will go to court against the trance scene of nowadays. i know how it was 15 years ago and i still live the vision. i will die for it also.
wish you a lot of fun while killing the trance culture. if you at least had some music theory knwoledge to know what i am talking about, i would accept your lack of vision. but you even turn the facts wrong.
no tolerance of my side for this. lets see in court what germany thinks about the octave. i suggest, that germany is quite different und much more intelligent. from the fucked up trance scene in this country. whatever. i will take care to swim against the river.
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Suloo
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Posted : Jul 27, 2009 21:07
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Hey Moki,
in almost every post you claim for the idiots at goabase..
in no offence, but we did understand that you got a problem with them, actualy no one here i gues will/can solve this for you..so its almost annoying to read your posts when you say in general german trance scene and stuff like that..at goabase there is just a very little part of the scene
and from the stuff i read there recently nothing of interest..
so no worries..if you know it better, be happy and leave them alone..
many people of the scene back 7 years ago or 10 moved on to minimal electro music and cannot stand psypartys/drugs and so on anymore..so obviously the scene is pretty young and changed..
actualy this whole talk about goabase in this thread becomes offtopic with the time more and more and it would be nice if we could stay ontopic for many reasons..
so back on:
it would be grate to have some frequency according to nice 143bpm or 145 bpm..to make some fullon tuned on this but 147 is actualy almost a little too fast imho...
well matter of choice..but if you see any way it would be nice to know..
cheers
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 10:46
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moki
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 13:45
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"goabase there is just a very little part of the scene"
only 60000 visitors per month.
whatever, i find it annoying also, so i let you know some things. i almost havent left my flat since months because of the psychoterror on phones, forums and whatever with violence. they dont live me live my life - just because i corrected them about the octave. you think it is funny, i dont. and if no one thinks it is time to move his ass and do sth- then i will help him. i cant stand people telling me that i am not allowed to talk in german about the octave. learn german yourself first. and btw what do you want from this topic more- it has all been said already. you havent even read it....i already said everything.
and if this scene, whatever it is, finds it okey to put a person into such a psychoterror just because of her ideas about the octave, then it is time to do sth.
btw i am not talking about goabase only.
i said i am going to court against the trance culture of nowadays.
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Suloo
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 14:59
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whatever...
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 17:17
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maybe u should go to the doc instead of court 
this is more than offtopic now and you´re not even one point better than the others 
you only treat the people here, f*#kin around with your opinion on the german trance scene.
maybe you should start your own forum with your own discussion there, cause what you´re doing now is completely untenable..... at least for me. even if i have nothing to do with this. anyway, without the intention to defend anyone (me including) i can only say that you better had been off this forum since your thread as shamantrixx. no wonder people attack u if u attack them
cheers, i´m out. any speech senseless
ps, this thread has become something very funny in the morning with a nice cup of coffee and half wide eyes
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moki
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 17:53
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thanks a lot for doing this ( off), because i dont really see any on topic of you here either. i dont know what are you trying to tell me. go then for a further discussion on the octave in goabase.
go spreading lies about what is an octave. the couple of 1000 ppl there and the rest threatening with violence on my phone, will have to take responsibility for what they do.
"wir sind der deutschen sprache mächtigen du kackfotze. ich mach dich zu hackfleisch " supported by amalesh. following a dozen of idiots on my phone who wanna be violent because they are supported by goabase. and this is very real.
only about this i can have some 10000 in the court. i want an official excuse for this one. in public, otherwise we meet in court. it will be a lot of entertainment.
if you believe i will leave some druged minds without even a school graduation to speak to me like that, you are very wrong about the german scene.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 17:55
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oh and one more thing - you can see who is attacking whom.
but as you dont see this, i will go to court to check it there. i have enough of this really. i did not attack anyone, i am explaining what is an octave. but yes, pleayse change the discussion or go to ask the mod here to close it. since everything has been said.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 17:56
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by the way what the fuck are you talking about, my thread as shamantrixx?????????????????
i have only one name and you see it in my signature. can we stop the lies a little bit??????????? please?
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 18:12
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moki
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 18:37
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the problem is that i lost my sense of humour with this one. may be you really close the topic so that i dont have to lose my time here anymore. i see that the topic is beyond the intellectual sufficiency of many pppl here. so even another 20 pages will not bring you nearer to what is an octave and what is a pythagorean comma. and i have no time to take the lies in the forums seriously.
actually i should really close my website and all the workshop videos there just for the ppl that i like. i will ban all the rest too. why do you think that i am obliged to do the videos, to put them on the internet and to let you all see them? i am not.
and btw i am losing my time explaining to you things, actually it is a favour that i am doing to you and to all to whom i gave the horoscopic vectors. because you have no one else to ask. a horoscopic track will cost you 400,- otherwise.
yes, i can open a forum, i am just telling you on isratrance, that the time for joking is gone. the time is gone, when some idiots will call themselves trancers and put my visions away from this culture. i will go to court because they are poluting the meaning of trance. and i will go to court because they and you too dont stop to lose my time with bullock and attacking my personal life.
the case is so clear to me. ppl who have no idea whats an octave come to teach me and to tell me that i know nothing and cant speak in german. yes, i can speak in german.any problem with this?? lets see in court who is right or wrong.
i think it is actually not a bad idea at all to do sth against the trance culture of nowadays.
the level of intelligence is beyond what can be called acceptable. i am not attacking anyone. if you at least could see this, the case would be forgotten for me. i am telling you the objective truth about the octave as it is in the concensual reality.
whatever. i am just losing my time here. the topic has been discussed already. and if you click on the previous pages you will get answers about a lot of things - no need to write 100 times. whatever. i go. and we will meet in court if i dont get an official excuse in public. thats why we have the courts.
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