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the cosmic octave and mathematics
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Suloo
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Posted : Jul 6, 2009 22:43
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I think this stuff in here is way more potential to reach specific effects than wierd frequencys on planet roundings..
http://healingbeats.com/forum/index.php
its like working with alpha /beta/delta waves etc...to force the brain resonating in this frequencies..
and heres the wiki..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats
working exclusive on headphones..
monaural beats work even without headphones and isochronic beats is just like a heartbeat in the right tempo..
her ive uped a commercial alpha wave track..so if you like check it out and report if it works in some way of better concentrating or general meditation purpose..
personaly i feel an effect compared to other chill out tunes after listening for half an hour..
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/1/1037727/Alpha%20wave%20brainentrainment.mp3
cheers
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moki
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Posted : Jul 7, 2009 17:56
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hey people,
is there someone here who is a native english speaker and has studied music , who wants to check my translation of the video of akasha project that i made? i need a check in the fine tuning.
but PLEASE really only people who have studied music and know what they are talking about. for the opposite case you can check the conversation in the goabase - it was definitely not done by ppl who know anything about the octave at all. i have absolutely no need for such correctors, but really people who know the fine tuning of the music theory words.
if there is someone who wants to checkt the translation, after i have done it, please tell me.
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Suloo
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Posted : Jul 7, 2009 18:01
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do you have all videos? there always seemed one missing..number 6 or so..
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moki
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Posted : Jul 7, 2009 18:25
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yes i took it out of the internet cause i wanted to make it better. all parts after part five have to become better. i will see if i can make this the next days ready. the english one will be shorter.
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Suloo
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Posted : Jul 7, 2009 18:40
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translation should be no problem..
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moki
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Posted : Jul 8, 2009 22:58
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no, it is not a problem,
i just wanna be sure that i have done it right.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 9, 2009 00:54
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On 2009-07-02 09:55, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
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On 2009-07-01 15:17, Axis Mundi wrote:
Dec 8th, 1979
11:32 PM
Panama City beach, Florida (USA)
Latitude:
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30 degrees, 9 minutes, 31 seconds North
Longitude:
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85° 39' 37" W
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once again back to the numbers:).
so i checked the case and looked in a map for the houses and ascendants.( keep in mind that this is a very rational science of numbers, the only not-rational thing is to realize that the stars influence us)
you are so much attracting mars actually !
you are like a magnet for mars. really.
i would suggest that you work on the following two frequencies:
183,58hz which is Fis.
this is appropriate for your sign and btw althought i did not find special table with this sort of desease in the books of lady schubert ( the one healing with tuning forks in the hospitals), but i found that this disease might be typical for sign...with this ascendent. so i would suggest you use parallel also for MARS:
144,72 hz, D.
i am interested to know what did you feel after you worked with these two numbers. hope you keep us informed.
!!!!! i am really interested
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I dialed up my synthesizer a few times and toyed with these frequencies. The result is that I did have a lot of fun with them and a few of the sounds I was able to tweak out of those base frequencies will be in a couple future tracks. I can't say for certain that I felt anything more healing or therapeutic about those frequencies than working with any others (generally, tweaking sound is a great positive stress reliever for me anyway, though, so there is that) but it could have as much to do with my methods of experimentation than anything else. I do admit that I'm not really clear as to how I'm supposed to interact with these frequencies. If I had a clearer method I'm sure I would get clearer results but so far the only conclusion is that more experimentation would be required.
For what it's worth, though, I was able to make some really cool sound presets out of those basic freqs which I plan to use constructively in the future, so one thing that's for sure is that I did get something very positive out of it!
On an unrelated note, I've also been putting a lot of Vitamin E lotion on my dermatitis as well and I think it's actually doing a lot to help my skin heal.
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Suloo
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Posted : Jul 9, 2009 02:20
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On 2009-07-08 22:58, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
no, it is not a problem,
i just wanna be sure that i have done it right.
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your welcome to pass it by..
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moki
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Posted : Jul 12, 2009 04:57
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but did you use in any way the table in the pdf at the beginning of the topic or not? what if you change the octave for all of these three"vectors"? change the 440hz for each of them different according to the table? you know what i mean?
if you want to have a clearer method, you need more than 3 vectors. you need at least 12 for each of the astro houses and lots more, but i thought we could simplify the method for a start.
what if the three vectors i gave you, get a different standard pitch according to the table.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 12, 2009 09:09
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I'll check it out later this afternoon after I wake up again. (Just got back from a party)
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Posted : Jul 12, 2009 14:44
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this before, but Starsounds orchestra is using cosmic octave a lot. |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Jul 13, 2009 02:03
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I'm not going to read through all the posts here, but I have some thoughts on that:
We are (in most music, instruments, our synths, pianos etc.) not only using the 440Hz A as a reference point but we are also using a "tempered" scale in order to be able to play all different scale with one instrument without retuning. We are not using "perfect intervalls"
Pythagoras found the natural intervalls by dividing a string. Unfortunately by just dividing the string naturally like 1/2, 3/2, 4/3 it is not possible to get 12 tones. If you want to use perfect intervalls you are always limited to one scale.
Now, changing the reference point to 432Hz wont make us use the original pythagorean scale, if we want to have the original scale we need to use perfect intervalls
Sorry if that has been discussed before, but anyways. I think I'll try to use 432 hz as a reference point maybe sometimes...
I just wonder how could anybody know that pythagoras used that frequency...? As far as I remember, the connection of frequency and sound, the methods to meassure frequencies, have been discovered far later. Pythagoras just knew how he had to divide a string in order to get the pitch he wanted.
Basically I find it totally logical that certain frequencies have more impact on humans than others since we are all nothing more than standing matter waves which oscillate in certain frequencies. But I'm a bit reluctant to accept that there is a "one frequency fits for all".. I'd rather suggest that depending on various factors from personality till position on earth the perfect "healing" or whatever frequencies are different and have to be found again and again.
Most of my music for you to download at:
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Jul 17, 2009 18:13
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i dont understand
What is perfect? a number without a decimal?
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Posted : Jul 17, 2009 23:42
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There are people that would say that numbers with fractures in them are not nessecarily less perfect or disharmonic, because from a certain perspective the whole decimal system is bound to the limits of our human perception, which is quite subjective when perceived from an objective universal level.
Seen in that light, crediting certain numbers to have special and more harmonising effects upon the human psyche and energy field actually seems quite random.
YET: the whole point of this is finding the subjective frequency which harmonizes the human perspective, and since so many people work from the idea that on ultimate level everything is one, we can look outside of ourselves for finding reflections of the natural harmonic cycles within ourselves.
Seen in that light, it would make sense to look at natural cycles and frequencies of the earth sun moon and stars and any celestial body we can perceive. Applying the frequencies we find there to the root frequencies of our musical language would result in the same intrinsic natural harmony that exist within the stars in our heavens..
If you have any better ideas of how to find the frequencies which will slowly start to shift our minds into a more harmonic state of being, thereby healing society's collective disconnection and madness, assisting our awakening process, please enlighten me 
If you think all of the above is mindless nonsensical newage hippy drivel, and are just making psytrance for the hedonistic pleasure and powerful drive of the music.. then don't worry about this discussion, and just move along, move along.
These are not the droids you're looking for 
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moki
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Posted : Jul 21, 2009 15:54
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On 2009-07-17 23:42, Gaiana wrote:
If you think all of the above is mindless nonsensical newage hippy drivel, and are just making psytrance for the hedonistic pleasure and powerful drive of the music.. then don't worry about this discussion, and just move along, move along.
These are not the droids you're looking for
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 )))this is what i am telling them since 8 months )))). and asking politely to do so before we get arrogant and lose energy.
but at the end of the day, we are the ones who have to move on. "they" will not move on because they are nowadays the majority of the scene.
(but if you really really wanna know my personal feelings after this discusson, i am absolutely unable to understand how the people from the trance scene can be so little interested in these issues. this was 100 percent definitely not the case 14 years ago. i am so sure about it, cause i remember those times very well. in those times the people actually started to make music WITH THE GOAL to connect to cosmic energies. music was the tool for the neo magicians and shamans. and NOT a copule of twists and methods of production.
nowadays it seem to be very different. it doesnt make me sad any more as it used to in the lst two three years, after i finally realized how little quantity we are ( who have this vision about what is the essence of music at all). it doesnt even make me arrogant any more. but it pushes my common sense to the point where i realize who is the one to go. they are not. they will not go. they dont even slightly understand what it is all about - they think they are the ones to say what is trance - since they are the majority.
so you know, i have another definition of trance and will follow it. they have their own and follow it as well. i find it really extremely easy to leave people who are not able to accept my visions.
but btw i dont mean anyone from this thread. i have seen it much worse than here. and i am thankful for this discussion - promise to put all the words in a new smaller text.
btw i am almost ready with another video special about cousto, again only in german. bt actually quite a lot of ppl speak german.
after that i go forward to the english versions. hey zork, please excuse me vor delay with the answer of pm. i come to you again very soon.
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