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moki
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 10:53
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well anyway, i guess i am not gonna find even 10.
btw you can use the table at the beginning for more details on your vectors. about the intervalls.
the reason is that i am looking for the right cases in wrong places.
like you know, it is impossible to talk on the cosmic octave and sacred mathematics in places like main stream goabase for example. ppl who tell me that i have a nazi symbol on my logo - see logo in my avatar , it is the flower of life. and it is a bad thing to have in germany, THEY ARE DEFINITELY the wrong observable quantity for my statistics experiment.
but if there are ppl who wanna try this out with the vectors - you just say and we do it. may be at the end we can even sum up everything together - all the vectors. whatever. i have to take care for more important things now.
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Suloo
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 11:04
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Ive already wrote you Moki, pls check pm..
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moki
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 13:06
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so you want to be a participant in the experiment also?
i will make very fast a table to post here - it will be the 10 persons who i find ( till now 3 persons then). must be ppl who do anything with sound or at least can experiment with hearing the very particular 3 vectors at once. ( can be more than 3 vectors).
then i will fill this table with some information in two months when we meet again , after the participants have experimented with the frequencies.
do you want me to put you in this table or do you want me to answer per pm?
 greets. btw bionic cycle is a good one. very important combination of words.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 13:09
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actually i can do much more than 10 persons. actually i can give anyone here very fast the three vectors, because i use an astro programm and dont draw myself the maps.
so anyone who want to try his vectors ( and takes the responsibility to answer a few questions after experimenting) can become a participant.
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daark
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 17:13
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 17:57
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 18:08
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Yes i will experiment. My laboratory is mainly in use for mescaline extraction but i can make room for this.
gimme vectors.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 20:13
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On 2009-07-02 17:13, daark wrote:
they already use the theory of chaos for complex synthesis to calculate the harmonics of the saxophone for example and synthesize it digital.(just one example)
you knew that?
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no i didnt. i dont know about any implications of sound in the chaos theory and i will be very happy to learn anything about it. you can tell more? a link?
i actually need only the numbers.
eLliSDee*: i need your data for the vectors. a need the coordinates of your appearance on earth.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 22:16
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and actually i could start another topic here about this research. would be much more nicer.
but i am concerned that this topic is not seen as an attractive one in isratrance generally, so i dont know if it is okey to spread like a fractal into the production forum of isratrance.
..i just got a nice warm place here in this thread where i can relax and feel at home, dont wanna risk it. but ok, i probably open another topic and ask for coordinates of participants willing to experiment with their vectors. so i have more significant number
hey daark really i dont know about it. i know about the fractal music and i have always wondered how arpegiators are made but i dont know anything about the science behind it. i just came to the conclusion that there is an attractor in the music. and a strange one. |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jul 2, 2009 23:17
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Arpeggiators have nothing to do with harmonics per se.
The work off midi note number.
I've built a few in my time. While it is true to say that a Midi note number will tie in to a certain hz, it would be an overexaggeration to say that this has any great significance. The frequency content of the wave may have many harmonic or inharmonic overtones. Furthermore, the wave freq may be very heavily affected by modulation sources.
The basic concept of an arpeggiator is to take a midi note, which acts as a trigger to start a loop of midi notes which fall in a certain range of notes either + or - from the received midi input.
Note timing is derived as a subdivision of a beat, which is the return value of a function giving sequencer tempo in the VST SDK. A number of samples is counted (which is dependant on the Sampling Rate of the audio driver - again a functions return), after which the next midi note is triggered in the sequence. When the sequence finishes, it loops back around to the start. When the midi note being held by the synthesist is released, the sample counter resets, and holds on 0.
This is a simple tempo-synced monophonic arpeggiator.
There is fuck all to do with fractals, or any harmonic relevance whatsoever here. You are barking up the wrong tree.
You could even programme one to produce a fibonacci sequence over either time or pitch should one so desire... At which point, the irrelvance of it all should become clear to you.
Math is not music, although music is sometimes mathematical.
As an aside... do you intend to build this healing music purely out of sine waves? Have you even considered harmonic relationships with respect to volume (including fletcher-munson) within your thought? Why is harmonic sound more important that inharmonic sound? Does this mean you are adverse to the use of percussion within music? (I guess tribal drumming using inharmonic percussion is fucked) What happens to all the music that was written past the point of equal-temprament - or indeed any music that changes key under your system?
Poorly.Thought.Through.Concept. .
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daark
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Posted : Jul 3, 2009 00:25
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On 2009-07-02 22:16, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote: i just came to the conclusion that there is an attractor in the music.
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there is. but i don't know physics on that level sorry.
really want to learn but don't know if i won't get bored and kill everyone with all those long boring equations..i don't know if i want to know physics that i don't use.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 3, 2009 01:14
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Speakafreaka, this is exactly the point - that i dont intend to do it with sinus waves...but with a vector matrix...
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jul 3, 2009 02:16
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moki
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Posted : Jul 3, 2009 02:34
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yeaah this is exactly what i need! WOW
thanks for tip!
exactly this!!! |
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