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the cosmic octave and mathematics
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moki
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 13:20
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wrong topic guys.  i will not leave a comment because it is nor relevant here and i am already enough concerned with the idea that the mod might say that this has nothing to do with music. actually it is the very oposite - the topic is the very essence of music.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 13:41
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right!. what does the statistic in our thread say? quite a lot of people are very far from being open minded here. you dont go where the evidence shows ( which is btw very tiring if you take into account, that you are the ones to repeat 100 times that i am not rational.? i am very rational btw.
i am resonating on so different level that it is impossible for you ti imagine it without contradictions.
show me one evidence, that my already presented evidences are not scientific. in every page you will find at least one example with a scientific argument. in the last page i am still waiting to hear why is the equation not representing an octave.
but i will not hear it. because evidence is abolutely irrelevant for you. you believe what you wanna believe. it is perfectly okey, i am the same. but at least i realize it that i could prove any observable phenomenon as being right by means of statistics. still waiting btw to hear who knows exactly what is statistics in depth and why is statistics the field on which everything in science is based.
the difference is that i am believing in totally different things because my reality is based on different observations than yours.
whatever. i am very curious what will cousto tell me about the attractors. because here i think i will not hear anything new at all, besides getting told how wrong i am from people who cannot even comment one single scientific issue in this thread.
what is a dynamic linear system, what is not, in the chaos theory?
what is the butterfly effect in the music?
how are arpegiators done?
what is fractal music?
what are the right intervals of orpheus?
what is the strange attractor time wave zero?
why is the octave a constant matrix?
why ended the software of terrence mckenna with the name timewave zero in 2012. what are these time waves that he uses to describe the synchronicities?
what is implosion?
what is implosion in sound???
why do so many scientists especially in Russia work with the water in their laborotories, checking how water reacts in music, how water can heal , proving hundreds and hundred times again and again that this is not a joke and a spiritual bullock but it is real. we are mostly water ourselfs and the water between our cells has a fractal nature itself. and these dozens of russian scientists have a certified scientifical method and have really proved that it works. you cannot blame me for the fact that you are not informed enough. you see. it is the consensual reality of the majority.
to me this conversation does not make any further sense if we are not gonna keep at least to the facts. i mean it is fucking irrelevant that a strange attractor is fat.
but it is relevant that an octave can be seen as a constant matrix in chaos theory. i really wonder why no one came to this idea, because i dont find anyone yet.
and btw axis mundi, i was not talking giving lsd in this quote, i was talking about the attractor only. imagine what will hapen with the right STRANGE ATTRACTOR. this is what i am imagining.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 13:49
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 14:45
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moki
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 15:00
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this is ridiculous btw. hope you are not offended that i tell you that but to point this as an evidence is ridicoulous, i like you and your myspace, but it is ridiculous to say this. i know those persons, they are so simple freaks actually. they dont have so much money and never will.
and if you consider their shop, you will find very very good information to start with. really. you will really find a lot.
and this is not the official website of Hans Cousto ( i mean it is not including everything he said). He is such a freak, he doesnt even realize how important it is to spread this genious idea around the globe. i will help him realize this if i can. and if we dont do a next video interview with him soon, i am gonna put all the details finally in english as well. to me planetware is also a bit too spiritual because it is not the essence of what Cousto said, but it is surely very interesting place to start. it is the best place to start. Hi is geniously scientifical. i only have to speak with him on the constants in the physics, on the right strange attractor and on the shumann resonance and then it will be much more fully.
btw what is your astro sign, i will give you a frequency to experiment with them and see the effect of what i explained as a derma problem. off topic: i saw you are in collogne - why not go to a samadhi tank , you can be healed very fast there. see article on my website for more information on adresses. /off topic.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 15:03
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I'm a sagittarius.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 15:04
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no no, date and everything as well . place of birth as well. and an hour. then you get a frequency and you tell us what happened to you after some months if you used this frequency
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moki
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 15:06
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of course if you dont want, you dont give me. but i dont know what to tell you other than that in this discussion from the last page....
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 15:17
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Dec 8th, 1979
11:32 PM
Panama City beach, Florida (USA)
Latitude:
30.1586111
30° 9' 31" N
30 degrees, 9 minutes, 31 seconds North
Longitude:
-85.6602778
85° 39' 37" W
85 degrees, 39 minutes, 37 seconds West
I looked at the link you mentioned, and while I admit I'm curious to see what that thing is all about, I can't realistically afford to spend 50-100 euros to sit in it. Unfortunately it's not easy as a non-EU foreigner to find work and I'm having a hard enough time keeping myself fed, and to me undertaking something like that is an extreme luxury that just doesn't fit into my budget.
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 15:20
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moki
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 15:27
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okey, i noted the date and will see on a map which frequency will be suitable and post later. first i have to read a book today about the chaos again. is it really true that no one found till now anything near to an ATTRACTOR in the MUSIK? i dont know any such value or example. but i see it very clear that you can draw a constant matrix with the intervals within an octave ( see last page). if i have to find the value of the vectors, i can have them through the intervals as well...so it is really an attractor.
i dont know. i guess noone here can imagine my enthusiasm. it is such a unifying theory. it is the science of tomorrow . the healing with resonance. it is already done at many place in the world.
but whatever, before i lose more time here, i better read the two books i have to finish today. then i know more. and i guess cousto will clear me on the attractor very soon as well. he is very much more near the consensual reality than i am.
but i know one thing. about time wave zero. this is an octave. and i will get the software as soon as i get my torrent thing back. i need it as air to breathe. i need to find out what terrence wanted to say with the law of time wave zero. he forgot the octave btw.
an interesting fact is that it all came to him through channeling and dmt.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 15:33
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On 2009-07-01 15:20, Speakafreaka wrote:
Damn, we are very much same era Axis!
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Haha, indeed. 
One question that's been kicking around my mind about all this is:
It seems like this whole theory is based around Western music. How does eastern/indian/japanese/micronesian music theory factor into all of this? It seems important since these styles of music are arguably more ancient/widely prevalent int he history of music than the Western 12-semitone octave. Yet it has never been mentioned anywhere.
About these attractors:
I'm still completely lost what you're talking about here. I'm sure you tried to explain it above but frankly this threadis way too convoluted for me to sort through it all to find out. Explain again please?
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 15:33
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... which is a very good reason to thoroughly investigate it before 'getting it out there'.
I'm sure we've all had 'house of cards' moments under the influence where everything 'just makes sense', and sometimes that can carry on well after the trip wears off, with everything seemingly logically interconnected and incredible...
until a false assumption somewhere down the line pulls out a card at the bottom, and the entire elegant construction shatters into its own debris.
Investigate - until it is the only possible argument left! 
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 15:43
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Agreed.
offtopic, but Speakafreaka, I'm really digging your vampyromorphida VST. |
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daark
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