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The best place for using Stereo Enhancers

jizy
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 20:56:55
hi there again, gotta question about the usage of stereo enhancers, like the psp stereo pack or Wider boy, sonakalsis Stereo tools.

just wondered where and when you would use them to give the sound that extreme depth along with reverb eq etc, would it be on a group send or fx channel, on the main channel, track pan techniques?

any tips and tricks?

also the use of M/S decoding

thanks

i use sonaklis stereo tools, KR-imager, psp stereo tools and elvanty wider boy.
x-rayz
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 21:01
I use it in mastering/finalizing the track, on master channel           http://www.facebook.com/xrayzproductions
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jizy
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 21:18
so u never use it on individul sounds, to make the sounds sort of out of the speakers?
x-rayz
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 23:10
no, stereo enhancer is meant for use in mastering, its one of mastering tools.. If I wanna make my sound coming out of speakers I use autopan and just flip the phase           http://www.facebook.com/xrayzproductions
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Seamoon
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 23:57
imho if you make a good stereo mix there's no need for it..           http://soundcloud.com/seamoon
Medea
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Posted : Apr 1, 2009 01:56
To get nice stereo feel in the track, generally you don't need to use stereoexpanders very much.

Try the following:

1) waves mondomod on individual leads

2) in percussion tracks, load several samples in battery and pan them differently (no hard left or right, 25 - 50 % max)

3) reverbs and stereo-delays!


4) Also it's good to have some very narrow mono sounds in combination with stereo, to help all these things sit well in the stereomix.

About stereoexpanders - the only one i use is steinberg's stereoexpander with a single slider. It just works great, especially when the movement of the slider is automated.
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Upavas
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Posted : Apr 1, 2009 02:08
I asked about the very same thing recently, Tsabi mentioned that he likes to do it with individual components in the mixing stage, I have tried and I like it too!           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 1, 2009 03:44
thanks people, back to the sound lab, took about 7months to perfect the kick and bass mix, now i guess its the lead journy
~d2~
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Posted : Apr 1, 2009 03:47
Quote:

On 2009-04-01 03:44, jizy wrote:
thanks people, back to the sound lab, took about 7months to perfect the kick and bass mix, now i guess its the lead journy




I look forward to it
Fragletrollet
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Posted : Apr 1, 2009 11:58
I only use it (mainly Fruity stereo plug) on separate elements. I try to visualize the mix in my head; what elements are in the foreground, wich in the back; wich are wide, wich are narrow...

It works very well on pads with delays and reverbs behind the rest of the mix           http://www.myspace.com/fragletrollet
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Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Apr 1, 2009 12:04
Quote:

On 2009-03-31 23:57, Seamoon wrote:
imho if you make a good stereo mix there's no need for it..



+1.
Also monofy the mix to see what it does to it and make su you don't go loosing the stuff you've put the stereo enhancer on.           
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Trip-
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Posted : Apr 1, 2009 14:48
I would use a stereo enhancer to reach new exrtemes if I really want to. Scenarios I can think of is putting it after a reverb on a send channel, marking that reverb as special. Also can come before the reverb on the send channel, different order, different sound.

But overall, for stereo additions I'd use other modulation plugins, like a Chorus, a Phaser or simply double channels.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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