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That Sh 101 Kick

Greententacle
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Posted : Oct 7, 2010 19:49:49
Hy guys,

iam searching for the secret how to make fat psy kick with the Roland Sh 101.

Here are some examples listen to push/pull CPU first track of eat it:

http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/nut/nut1cd014.html

Samy (CPU) told me this kick was made with the 101, but he won´t tell me how he did it.
I tried alot with my 101, and sure, i get a Kick out of it, but there must be some furter processing with another pitch envelope or something, can´t get close just with the 101.....
What i did:

resonance to full
OSC off
cutoff about 1/10
enelope - to cutoff mod
keyfollow off
tweak envelope to taste

can someone help me with this please,

PS: Hallucinogen and Prometheus for example use the 101 for they´re kicks too

cheers freaks           www.myspace.com/toxicbytes
PoM
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Posted : Oct 7, 2010 19:55
i can see only this way to make them... you re not getting close? he make them with the 101 and tune them to a key with logic tuner.

can you upload a sample?i m intrested in this cause i was thinking to buy one,it make amazing snare/clap too
klippel
Stereofeld

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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 08:33
haven´t got a sh101 so i can´t help you mate, but if you find a way to recreate that kick sound, please upload it, will you?
very nice soft and round full bodied logic bomb´ish kick..           http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel
"I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons
drucdrac
Druc Drac

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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 09:07
don't you think they're EQing this, after the sh101?

it may help you to get closer to the sound you are seeking...

          http://elytres.net
daark
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 10:08
maybe envelope to pitch?(if possible)

also try you can try adding drive if you do a sine and resonance           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
daark
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 11:41




here is a kick i made with resonance on toxic there are problems made it just now .

i think any synth could go for anything almost.           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
daark
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 12:45
forgot to say breakbeat stuff from tsabeat
hare hare           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
Shiranui
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 17:14
daark that kick is delayed a little bit (it seems to come slightly after the bassline hit)
daark
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 17:20
i know it has some attack
it's not exported and i could tweak a little more

but how does it sound overall?          http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
Shiranui
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 17:23
Sounds fine... can't really judge I'm on shitty headphones at work atm.
Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Oct 13, 2010 03:42
It sounds good to me, close to a kick i've heard in some song from Infected mushroom actually.
I like when kicks make that little tsch-sound
           http://soundcloud.com/li-fe

I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
vafl

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Posted : Oct 26, 2010 15:15
Quote:

On 2010-10-07 19:49:49, Greententacle wrote:
Hy guys,

iam searching for the secret how to make fat psy kick with the Roland Sh 101.

Here are some examples listen to push/pull CPU first track of eat it:

http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/nut/nut1cd014.html

Samy (CPU) told me this kick was made with the 101, but he won´t tell me how he did it.
I tried alot with my 101, and sure, i get a Kick out of it, but there must be some furter processing with another pitch envelope or something, can´t get close just with the 101.....
What i did:

resonance to full
OSC off
cutoff about 1/10
enelope - to cutoff mod
keyfollow off
tweak envelope to taste

can someone help me with this please,

PS: Hallucinogen and Prometheus for example use the 101 for they´re kicks too

cheers freaks




it's kick made with self resonating filter and actually self resonating filter is almost like a sine wave.

resonance to full >> put resonance so filter go in self oscilation and he will than produce sound if you give him some sound like noise.(but i think there is noise present in analog synths and should be added only in digitall synths so tha nnoise gives filter a job to work with)

OSC off >> probably to turn all oscilators

cutoff about 1/10 >> this is the root note actually, 1/10 means that it is low in frequency spectrum and there is kick fundament

enelope - to cutoff mod >> you say to envelope that it control filter sweep trough frequency spectrum

keyfollow off >> when you press any key kick will always have same root note in sub region

tweak envelope to taste >> envelope will control movement of that self oscilating filter through spectrum so attack to 0, sustain to 0, release to 0 and than you control the duration with decay (on envelope) of kick through time/frequency spectrum

and i think you will need to sempl it bcs kicks will sound little diferent one from another and it would be unusable.

don't kno the roland sh101 but try this way.

regards and happy tracking

also there should be a envelope amount mentioned(twisti it sometimes ) but as i said i dont kno sh 101.

Freeflow
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Posted : Oct 27, 2010 04:14
Nice demo daark, keep at it you can make a wicked track out of it

Peace
superthomi

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Posted : Dec 11, 2010 15:32
Maybe the bassline was also compressed?
Trevon


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Posted : Dec 11, 2010 19:18
this is the most close that I got...
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/25650795/kick_trevon.wav
first my kick then the psyshop sample kick
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