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Amygdala
Amygdala

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Posted : May 27, 2004 16:57
I'm not sure I understand what you want exactly - no matter, I'll have to start somewhere.

I had something in mind, where a single synth line is analyzed - this makes it easy to determine fundamental frequency, peaks in the spectrum and so forth... Which manipulations would you guys find apealing...?

For starters I'll implement it as a plugin for SuperCollider, which means you need that, and a mac to run it... Maybe, if it works, I can try to do a proper VST plugin... But the FFT-analysis I plan to use hogs computer resources pretty bad...

Anyway, suggestions are welcome

- Amygdala
Dar/ORAL GROOVE


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Posted : May 27, 2004 23:57
If it will devide the chanels perfectly it will be a reveloution... it will be the most favorite tools for remixes..
but what do u say - people can take stuff from your track like samples and bassline etc...
Krama [Minimal]
Krama

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Posted : May 28, 2004 03:08
From where we can download it?
give the link to ppl           New Land.

http://www.myspace.com/kramaband
zooter
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Posted : May 28, 2004 05:21
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On 2004-05-28 03:08, Krama [Minimal] wrote:
From where we can download it?
give the link to ppl




it will cost u money (loads of money), its not free           Interviewer: "So Frank, you have long hair. Does that make you a woman?"
Frank Zappa: "You have a wooden leg. Does that make you a table?"
br0d
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Posted : May 28, 2004 08:02
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On 2004-05-27 16:57, Amygdala wrote:
I had something in mind, where a single synth line is analyzed - this makes it easy to determine fundamental frequency, peaks in the spectrum and so forth... Which manipulations would you guys find apealing...?

- Amygdala



Well, since melodies exist, the plug is obviously going to have to take an average or do a spectral analysis of an entire track or part, then it can determine a center frequency and either set the eq automatically, or recommend eq settings for use in another plug. Actually I think Cubase SX's Statistics function does this currently, but it does it poorly. I think someone else wrote something like that once before, but it was none to great either.
Ott^
OTT

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Posted : May 31, 2004 20:43
You lot will believe anything.

Amygdala
Amygdala

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Posted : Jun 1, 2004 05:06
Appearantly, ignorance IS bliss
zooter
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Posted : Jun 1, 2004 07:41
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On 2004-06-01 05:06, Amygdala wrote:
Appearantly, ignorance IS bliss



Why waste time learning when ignorance is instantaneous           Interviewer: "So Frank, you have long hair. Does that make you a woman?"
Frank Zappa: "You have a wooden leg. Does that make you a table?"
sWa
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Posted : Jun 1, 2004 11:44
If this shit works then its the dream for everybody who has cool movie samples but there's fucking music in the background           Making full-on (specialy with a vb-1) is like playing FIFA in easy mode, you're always sure to win.
zooter
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Posted : Jun 2, 2004 08:47
not to mention that fact that i can rip apart my favourite GMS track and just change the lead and put it as zooter rmx
Amygdala
Amygdala

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Posted : Jun 2, 2004 15:42
Well Zooter - that's hardly a fact is it? - and it probably won't ever be. The Splitter thingy will have very limited use, but is in theory possible - as soooo many other things...

- Amygdala
zooter
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Posted : Jun 3, 2004 09:31
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On 2004-06-02 15:42, Amygdala wrote:
Well Zooter - that's hardly a fact is it? - and it probably won't ever be. The Splitter thingy will have very limited use, but is in theory possible - as soooo many other things...

- Amygdala



definitely not possible...i challenge u...seriously

cmon, its like saying once you finished eating your meal, you can operate on the stomach & split all the different things you ate!!! i know its a stupid example, but one that came to me immediately           Interviewer: "So Frank, you have long hair. Does that make you a woman?"
Frank Zappa: "You have a wooden leg. Does that make you a table?"
Amygdala
Amygdala

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Posted : Jun 3, 2004 12:39
- well, then - challenge you too. Prove to me formally, that it can't be done.

I think of it more as chemically splitting differentcompound... Like water to hydrogen and oxygen, and taking apart sand from salt. All it takes is imagination, and a *very* carefully crafted tool which is probably beyond my scope of skills so far.

Why judge something impossible, just because it could do amazing things - things you *thought* impossible?

- I'm trying to dig up some articles on the subject, but I'm rather busy at the moment - but hang tight

- Amygdala
zooter
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Posted : Jun 3, 2004 14:13
ok, i accept "impossible is nothing"

but right now, with the technology we have....i don't think its possible (at the current time)....

maybe in future, with more advanced computing techniques it could be possible...

then again, it COULD be possible.....innocent until proven guilty...

impossible until proven possible           Interviewer: "So Frank, you have long hair. Does that make you a woman?"
Frank Zappa: "You have a wooden leg. Does that make you a table?"
Amygdala
Amygdala

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Posted : Jun 3, 2004 21:11
Right, that's my point exactly

However, there are some pretty hard evidence, that it can NOT be done perfectly - so in that way you're right. However, what precisely "perfectly" means is kind of left to the readers definition...
I can't find the article I'm looking for, I only have it as hardcopy. That annoys me a bit
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