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"42"
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Posted : Sep 13, 2009 16:52:20
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Is there anyone here that can explain me the reason why Pioneer has such a strong monopoly on the market?
Mixers & CDj...
It is rear these days to find a party/club/dj with other brands...
Is it a quality thing? did anyone checked it?
Is it a "go with the herd" thing?
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pr0fane
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Posted : Sep 13, 2009 17:43
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Pioneer generally have a very strong brand on the market for CDJ's, and not just on the psytrance scene. CDJ1000 MK3 is the best player I've tried, and almost every major club or gig uses it. Don't know why CDJ100 is still so heavily used on the psytrance scene though - I find it heavily lacking, and it's not uncommon to play on old players where the jog-wheel is worn and quite unreliable. One of the reasons why I often just use the pitch slider to adjust the pitch during a mix...
Concerning mixers Pioneer doesn't have as strong a position on the market. Of course Pioneer is the standard in most cases, but especially at bigger venues I've played at other (and in some opinion better) mixers such as Allen & Heath.
I think one of the main reasons for Pioneer having such a strong brand, is that a lot of DJ's require some sort of standard. Of course it's necessary to be able to adapt to different situations, but it's also nice to get to your gig and know exactly how to operate the supplied gear right away. DJ pr0fane (Iboga Records) | Multiphase
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Posted : Sep 13, 2009 17:53
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On 2009-09-13 17:43, pr0fane wrote:
Concerning mixers Pioneer doesn't have as strong a position on the market. Of course Pioneer is the standard in most cases, but especially at bigger venues I've played at other (and in some opinion better) mixers such as Allen & Heath.
I think one of the main reasons for Pioneer having such a strong brand, is that a lot of DJ's require some sort of standard. Of course it's necessary to be able to adapt to different situations, but it's also nice to get to your gig and know exactly how to operate the supplied gear right away.
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Said it all.
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"42"
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Posted : Sep 13, 2009 19:00
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On 2009-09-13 17:43, pr0fane wrote:
Concerning mixers Pioneer doesn't have as strong a position on the market. Of course Pioneer is the standard in most cases, but especially at bigger venues I've played at other (and in some opinion better) mixers such as Allen & Heath.
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I can count in 1 hand the clubs/bars in Tel Aviv with Mixers wich are NOT Pioneer made.
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"42"
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 05:07
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Shiranui
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 06:45
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The only good thing behringer makes is that one midi controller
their mixers are good when you first buy them but do not last long at all.
Probably the reason pioneer has such a cornered market on CDJs is because they are the only ones to really focus on quality... most other CDJs mainly try to beat Pioneer's price or add new features.
It's kind of a vicious cycle... Denon is the only brand that comes close to equaling pioneer for CD players, and they have a couple of neat features that pioneer doesn't... but then a DJ will think "Well those features are great, but why get used to them when any club I will play in will have pioneer?"
Same reason why the Technics turntables are still popular over other, arguably better models like Stanton ST-150 and Numark TTX1 |
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n.t.t
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 08:48
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supergroover
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 11:37
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I prefer the sound of the A & H, but i prefer the use of the pioneers. I really don't like the 4 band eq on the A & H. |
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n.t.t
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 13:41
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Elad
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 14:42
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for dj pioneer are number 1 when it comes to quality and comfort.
allen and heath is the only other mixer i like to play on. great sound quality. 4 bands eq is plus for me too.
the rest is shite bro. i had beghringer and sold it. i played on numark , gemini , and denon.. nothing like good ol' pioneer... imo
oh yeah , did we mention that if you go to play in public then 80% of the time thats the gear you will get.. so better to be prepared 
and let me call all israeli organizers please use pioneer 1000's with 800 mixer. stop that 100/500 combo its old. no looping options even... line up with the higher level www.sattelbattle.com
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Ascension
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 15:20
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almost_human KROX ( Phantasm Rec .)
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 16:48
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Pioneer is PIONEER ... 100% user friendly
Boom !~!~!
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 21:08
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pioneer mixers sucks bigtime compared to a&h ecler and rane!
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psy-junky
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Posted : Sep 15, 2009 00:20
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On 2009-09-14 21:08, Dennis the menace wrote:
pioneer mixers sucks bigtime compared to a&h ecler and rane!
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Pioneer is just the standard they are a big company with good distribution channels all over the world so the majority of clubs have them.
If you want the best where budget is not a compromise i think ecler, allen & heath rock. Never heard of rane will check it out.
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djanahata
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