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tempo tonality correspondance
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nick
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Posted : Jan 9, 2005 05:03
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given that pitch and rhythm can be viewed as expressions of the same phenomena at different scales, consider the following:
BPM range, Tonality
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80-84, F
85-89, F#
90-94, G
95-100, G#
101-106, A
107-112, A#
113-119, B
120-126, C
127-133, C#
134-141, D
142-150, D#
151-159, E
etc, etc...
degree of consonnance between rhythm-based parts and pitch-based parts is completely subjective of course. |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jan 9, 2005 05:38
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Amygdala
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Posted : Jan 9, 2005 19:12
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...Apart, of course, from sound that are based on anything but purely synthesized waveforms, are completely noise free, unphased, has no DC-offset, etc...
I don't get the concept of the first post though - what is the message...? I almost exclusively work in G#, becuase that's where my Juno's square bass sounds it's best - and my tempo is 130+... What's the connection of pitch and tempo. Am I missing something obvious 
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MARGHERITA
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Posted : Jan 9, 2005 21:10
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What's the connection of pitch and tempo. Am I missing something obvious
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No connection usual....
Is possible to make a lot different feelings working on tune & tempo. I'm shure for make a good felling into a track you need search the good mix betwen the tempo & tune.
Sorry my english is very bad for get my opinion about this.
For exemple
When the tempo is fast & you want a happy feeling i think is better make a high tune on the bassline.
Amygdala you have right , when i use in reason the sampler NN-XT with the patch picked bass, i like only some notes from this sound foor make a good bassline.
Now when i make a bassline with a new synth.
everytime i search the good note for big rocking sound .
In my experience the bassline make the first tune/energy & after the rest.... follow with no problems...
give me feedbacks please
peace.
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Mike A
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Posted : Jan 9, 2005 21:53
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On 2005-01-09 05:38, Colin OOOD wrote:
...other than if you use exactly the right tempo and key, any beat-exact edits you make are guaranteed to occur on zero-crossing points and will not click...
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Taking care of those is exactly 2 seconds, so I see no point in working on a special bpm for it.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jan 10, 2005 03:39
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Amygdala
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Posted : Jan 10, 2005 10:37
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MARGHERITA> Yeah i think so too - the only problem is when I have some sample in a certain pitch, that doesn't fit with a good pitch for the bass... Since I hate pitch-shifting (it never *really* works, does it?) I have to compromise, and make the bass in another less oomphy pitch.
By the way - OOOD, can I have a copy of the God chart? I've been thinking about experimenting with the bassline in the over-doing-paying-much-too-much-attention-to-mathematics-and-stuff way - just to see (hear?) if it makes any difference
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Jan 10, 2005 16:24
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On 2005-01-10 10:37, Amygdala wrote:
By the way - OOOD, can I have a copy of the God chart? I've been thinking about experimenting with the bassline in the over-doing-paying-much-too-much-attention-to-mathematics-and-stuff way - just to see (hear?) if it makes any difference
-A
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I'd be interested in having a look at this too, as lately I have also been experiment with number-obsessing track creation (mostly just for kick and bass).
thanks!
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Mike A
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Posted : Jan 10, 2005 17:46
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I think it's more of a see thing that hear thing. hehe 
You don't draw your sound, so I really think this is pointless. But it you have the nerves for it, go ahead
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Elad
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Posted : Jan 10, 2005 19:40
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OMG
r u cirious?!
i can announce here that its bullshit... tell jimi hendrix what note he should play when h plays 110 bpm... hehe
offcourse music build on scales not on one note anywayz... what kind of musician will hang on to that list?
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Amygdala
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Posted : Jan 10, 2005 19:40
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Hehe, my thoughts exactly - but one should never say never 
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Elad
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Posted : Jan 10, 2005 19:43
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nick
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Posted : Jan 11, 2005 03:22
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Gentlemen, you misunderstand me. I was simply pointing out that an event occuring 120 times per minute (say, a kick drum on every beat at 120 bpm) is a periodic event. Any periodic event can be expressed in hertz. 120 bpm is 2Hz. 2Hz is basically C, seven octaves below middle C.
It is not exact because of equal temperament and other things, but if one cares, one can choose closely related tempo and tonality so as to able to travel easily between the perceptual realms of pitch and rhythm.
Example: Your tune is in C at 120 bpm. You cut up a loop and retrig one 32nd note. You will hear a tone at 64Hz which is roughly C two octaves below middle C. This tone can then be sampled and integrated to the pitch based parts of the song. |
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Kaz
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Posted : Jan 11, 2005 12:35
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On 2005-01-10 19:40, tsabeat wrote:
offcourse music build on scales not on one note anywayz... what kind of musician will hang on to that list?
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did you listen to psytrance basslines lately?
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sy000321
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Posted : Jan 11, 2005 20:51
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now.. it's my time to complain...
coff cooff (just cleaning my throat for a better blast)
all this psytrance stuff w/ too rigid rules... too much care at production... to little soul... everything sounds the same...
i would prefer to spend the little time i've for music production trying to make good "more than one note basslines" than to struggle with whatever obscure math process your using here...
that said... it think novel ideias are good... keep it up...
also, maybe one of us come across a discovery like the use of kick drum or snares or bass... lol
i think you lost me along the way...
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