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tantra and trance pt. 2
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trouby
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Posted : Jul 14, 2005 17:10
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found an older topic but i think a new one is better...hope my en isn't too bad...
The tantric philosophy is a way to enlighment, can used as extension to a religion.
there's 2 main directions: right/white & left/red, sometimes black.
the main principle in tantra is the dualism of all energy - like taoism - like yin/yan for example, that means shiva can only create with shakti energy. another thing is that god (or call it allah, brahman,...) is in everything, everywhere. Tantra doesn't know judgement, dogmas and other limitions - don't judge but understanding - tantra begins in your mind - it accepts all in our life, on your body - straight linear, no judgement. The body is the temple of god.
Tantra has NOTHING to do with sexual better love how commercials like to interpret...
the right version uses meditation, mantras,etc. for the way to enlightment, better feeling etc., an conservative way;
the left version breakes taboos (in the indian system) like the maithuna ritual (sacred sex as goddess admiring (puja), THIS grabbed to commerciality).
in background is the black one - sexual wizards - they make his magic things while orgasm - what a shit...
ask wikipedia for more infos.
my main request here cos i'm producing with a friend an album "sectret of tantra". it's mostly new age, should incl. >1 psytrance track. the main track of this should start as new age intro with lyrics (definition of the tantric philosophy) the a break to the psytrance part of the song.
At the moment I've a lack in lyrics - who has some ideas??? |
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Jul 14, 2005 19:29
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Well I wrote this, I don' think it fits exactly with what you want, but maybe it can help guide you towards what you are looking for:
LOVE:
He ho does not love, does not truly exist, because love is life in it’s purist essence, life is love and love is life, god is love therefore you are love, do not fear evil, be aware of evil, evil is a creation of our subconscious-minds, we create our own heaven and hell, if we choose the path of love and optimism, you exclude evil, you reject evil, you do not fear evil, you rise above evil, the people around you are mysteriously effected, they now two do not fear evil, they do not feel evil, they do not believe in evil, they believe in love, they see love spreading all through-out the cosmos and into their veins, a tingling loving sensation, that can not be stopped, like a beam of love being projected into life in all it’s forms and peculiar shapes. A question which comes to mind is; Why choose evil when you can choose love? Why choose darkness when you can choose light? Why should you be realistic when you can be idealistic? Why be narrow-minded when you can be open-minded?
In the world of love, you will be as peaceful as a dove, remember to love, you are a drop of water in the ocean
Cheers my brother....
 "Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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trouby
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Posted : Jul 17, 2005 19:26
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great basics - a really good 'poem' .
the style remembers me to dj krust-coded language.
it's a bit too long but we can work 2gether.
your poem incl. love vs. evil, fear, state of minds.
more comes later... |
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Jul 19, 2005 09:03
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I love to read tantric scriptures and their spiritual philosophy...the middle way path...saraha were dancing in ecstacy around dead bodies and singing in a trance state...that king song may inspire you...
mantra sound with yantra visuals...
good luck I am really intereting to listen that...in audio translation...
~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS.. |
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trouby
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Posted : Aug 9, 2005 15:32
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have a bit changed - parts in () maybe removed:
what means 'he ho'?
He ho does not love,
does not truly exist,
cos love is life in it’s purist essence,
life is love and love is life,
god is love therefore you are love,
don't fear evil,
be aware of evil,
evil is a creation of our subconscious-minds.
we create our own heaven and hell,
if we choose the path of love (and optimism),
you exclude evil,
you reject evil,
you don't fear evil,
you rise above evil,
the people around you are mysteriously effected,
they don't fear evil,
they don't feel evil,
they don't believe in evil,
they believe in love,
they see love spreading all through-
out the cosmos and into their veins,
a tingling loving sensation,
that can't be stopped,
(like a beam of love being projected into life in all it’s forms and peculiar shapes. )
A question which comes to mind is;
Why choose evil when you can choose love?
Why choose darkness when you can choose light?
Why should you be realistic when you can be idealistic?
Why be narrow-minded when you can be open-minded?
In the world of love,
you will be as peaceful as a dove,
remember to love,
(you are a drop of water in the ocean...) |
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Aug 9, 2005 17:12
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wow spiritual tantric mystical poetry!!!
about the question of you mind:
we have to keep the ballancess of the opposite sides,so love and hate is almost the same think ,the one from the right side the other from the left...that is the difference...ballance is the link between them...
~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS.. |
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trouby
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Posted : Aug 10, 2005 17:12
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i know the tantric phlosophy.
i meant the words 'he ho', the 1st line i don't understand.
@green channel: do u've a good voice for rapping??? song has 143 bpm, beats not ready yet cos cpu overload (400%)
@all: gimme more of this poetry! |
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Yellow Warrior
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Posted : Aug 10, 2005 17:51
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On 2005-08-09 15:32, trouby wrote:
have a bit changed - parts in () maybe removed:
what means 'he ho'?
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Trouby, i think it should read - 'he Who...' 
Rather than feeling that you're about to have the rug pulled from under you, let me teach you how to dance on a flying carpet |
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Ov3rdos3
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Posted : Aug 10, 2005 18:43
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so basically, what your saying is tantric sex has nothing to do with tantra? |
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trouby
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Posted : Aug 10, 2005 21:03
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desc. this philo in eng. is difficult...
sexuality is a part of the human beings - i meant the tantric philo is not basicly sex, just a part.
he ho -> the who? lol
this poem should something for dj krust - have 'coded language' video
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found out that the mormons has a basic tantric philo, but it runs over by their kind of life - the german m. are more on rules & vintage opinions than the americans...
i'm not one of these, but centuries ago... |
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trouby
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Posted : Aug 10, 2005 22:03
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OK - here's the full version of the poem -
harmony: dddd ddCC CCdd dd 14 bars @ 143 bpm,
also 6x d, 4x c, 4x d - i added the note keys as bar counter for rapping.
d- He ho does not love,
d- does not truly exist,
dd- cos love is life in it’s purist essence,
dd- life is love and love is life,
cc- god is love therefore you are love,
c- don't fear evil,
c- be aware of evil,
dd- evil is a creation of our subconscious-minds.
d- we create our own heaven and hell,
d- if we choose the way of love,
d- you exclude evil,
d- you reject evil,
d- you don't fear evil,
d- you rise above evil,
dd- the people around you are mysteriously effected,
c- they don't fear evil,
c- they don't feel evil,
c- they don't believe in evil,
c- they believe in love,
d- they see love spreading all through,
d- out the cosmos and into their veins,
d- a tingling loving sensation,
d- that can't be stopped.
dd- A question which comes to mind is;
dd- Why choose evil when you can choose love?
dd- Why choose darkness when you can choose light?
cc- Why should you be realistic when you can be idealistic?
cc- Why be narrow-minded when you can be open-minded?
d- In the world of love,
d- you will be as peaceful as a dove,
dd- remember to love...
OK, its a bit difficulty to read... |
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other_reality
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Posted : Aug 10, 2005 22:52
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There is a psychedelic rock group that has this song "The root verses of the six bardos". Anything to do with this above ? Kinda reminiscent...
Bring yourselves into the light
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Aug 11, 2005 14:14
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I’m sorry that I haven’t replied earlier, but I have just been on a festival-tour …
I think the way you divided the poem is excellent…
It’s not “ho”, it’s supposed to be who… … (A silly typo)…
Unfortunately I’m not a great rapper, but please keep me informed, I’ll love to hear how the track progresses.
"Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Aug 11, 2005 14:31
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On 2005-08-10 22:52, other_reality wrote:
There is a psychedelic rock group that has this song "The root verses of the six bardos". Anything to do with this above ? Kinda reminiscent...
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Socrates and Plato believed that every idea all-ready existed in the world of ideas. I thought it was a strange notion when I first studied the subject, but I have experienced mental-stats where you feel as if information is running freely out of your body without thought. This particularly poem was written after an Ayahuasca experience. I wrote it five minutes after I woke up, the day afterwards, without thought I just let my heart guide my pen. …
"Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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trouby
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Posted : Aug 15, 2005 00:17
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its a bit offtopic - who's lucky and got a sensual tantric massage? looking for experienced ppl zu get a song lyric again - its a chilly song, a bit new age. |
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