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Talmasca Cronox and VB1
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Obelizk
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 02:20:59
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So I was listening to some Talmasca and what seems just like the VB-1 haha. Back to VB-1 yet again.
I remember some people saying a way to get those old psy basslines was to put VB-1 samples through Cronox 2.
My question is: What notes should I sample? If I have a song in a minor, should I just take a low 'A' note sample? or what?
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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 03:20
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Saii
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 04:05
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wow really?
i dont have cronox 2 for the mac os x i wish!!
do you think i can do the same with cronox 3?
thanks
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Koozer Mox
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 05:00
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iNexus
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 05:13
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bros, take koozer's help on this one...
belieeeeeeve me, this is his area. i heard his stuff. it is close to PERFECT.
trust me and trust him.
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 08:26
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@koozer  wow, that is impressive
You really did a good job. main difference is that the original has the kick and bassline more upfront. Especially the kick is much louder. The melodie is more in the background and the guitar is more present. so it's a lot in the mere levels. Slayer VST plugin should give you that guitar too.
Also important for the presence of the talamasca: massive 909 offbeat hiHat, yours is too subtle. Also your clap would need to be a bit lower.
You should put the project file online, I'm sure it would help a lot of people. I also have such "clones" on my websites tutorial section. As from my experience this is what most people find the most helpful.
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Obelizk
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 08:54
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jizy
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 15:36
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Vb1 is so dam lame I don't know why everyone fuss over it... I don't understand why.. It doesn't have much in the way of a filter envelope or mod matrix
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 15:59
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with vb1 i dont think you need to sample it cause the sound of the envelop is fucking fast and snappy,i would love to be able to load sample into vb1 cause it s more the oscillator (or sample they used) i don t like much |
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Obelizk
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 18:57
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I just loaded VB1 into cronox. It sounds pretty tight PoM you should try it. The Cronox filters are quick. The filters in Cronox enhance the vb1 sound nicely.
I started using a lot of different vsts for fullon, but for those songs where I don't need a huge bass, that Talmasca type of sound works well.
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Saii
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 19:21
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obelizk....can i do this in cronox 3 cuz i cant get the 2..will it sound good?
how do u do it exactly?
never used it yet but i have it
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Obelizk
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 19:30
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The way I just did it, and it should be the same with Cronox3.
1. I played a bunch of VB-1 quarter notes from c1 to c3, just the white keys.
2. Bounced each note out separately
3. Then since I'm making a song in the key of c, loaded the c2 sample into cronox.
4. Then just mess around with the envelopes and filter settings.
People on here say Cronox3 doesn't have as clean envelopes but I've never tried it. I bet it will sound good anyway.
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Saii
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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 00:07
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cool man thanks
so what u mean by load it is that to use it like a sampler right??
nothing special...
right?
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Obelizk
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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 01:07
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Chimp in Space
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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 01:39
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Damn love that synth sound you made in the second clip Koozer. Classic talamasca square sound. Love to get an explaination of how to make that one 
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