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Symbiosis Gathering REVISED!!! September 17-21, 2009 Yosemite, CA
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paradigm
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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 04:35
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well... here i am. Two be honest, i was simply ignoring this thread, and taking the high road. I said my piece, realized that any further efforts would really get me nowhere, and gave up whipping the proverbial horse...
but it seems Bephree has a problem with separating a critique of a event and org, from that of a personal attack.
He seems quite intent on calling me out...
Honestly tho, through his arguments, he has demonstrated that he really in fact does only have a rudimentary knowledge of the working psy community here in a whole.
The gentleman really has done most of my work for me
Continue to debate what ive said. Agree, disagree, what ever
Im out. I will not look at this thread again.
but i will leave it with this final words, since there are some mistruths circulating out there
I did not say Symbiosis was a bad event by any means.
But the trance was fucked off on this year. Sure thats my opinion, but its a damned educated opinion, and one that is not alone.
and i did not abandon my responsibilities. As explained to numerous people in the org, and i think a earlier post..
I spent over 3 hours trying to resolve the ride /hotel situation with Kox Box. Not a single person of any responsibility was on radio to help.
I ask this to the public... Is that really acceptable? To have a festival of this size, with not one person answering on a radio about a concern with a artist?
I did my part, and in fact was dismissed by the only 2 people working in artist relations at the time.
ill leave it at that
-out
 
Logical Light Music - SF
Straylight Productions -SF
Sound/Mind - Denver
Xcience - Midwest
mixes for dl at :
http://www.thehothouse.net/straylight/paradigm/index.htm
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nod
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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 05:12
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On 2009-09-30 20:40, bephree wrote:
AND THEN rallied the people who weren't there (Psyman, nod, Bodhi) to support his argument. No thank you. Please don't point that thing at me.
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if you think i was supporting his argument, you need to refamiliarize yourself with the meaning of hoekstra:
http://hoekstraisameme.com/
just sayin'. i probably would have tried to go if it wasn't the same weekend as the equinox festival in nc...
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FattyAcid
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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 09:07
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nod plays dubstep, not trance
Wake walking through your sleep dream
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jds
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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 21:46
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On 2009-09-29 23:59, vaxination wrote:
...maybe the orgs from gemini can collaborate on improving the stage where most of the psy will be next year?
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That's the sort of thing I like to read.
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Um you all do realize that "Paradigm" was the organizer of Gemini this year? And with Bephree's negative response to Paradigm's comments I seriously doubt that is ever going to happen.
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I realize that we're all a bunch of adults here and not babies. And that the greater expression going on when anyone participates in organizing events is creating environments and experiences that transcend ego for the attendees AND organizers. As individuals involved in a global psychedelic community I prefer to think that we all strive to grow beyond the mundane bounds of everyday reality and its ego trappings.
So yes, that is exactly what I like to read after having followed this entire thread from the beginning and read every post. I am familiar with the organization of Gemini in previous years including this past one and I also enjoyed it thoroughly. I see no valid reason why a collaboration couldn't occur (I'm not suggesting it will, but I believe in possibilities). Sometimes we all get hung up on negativity and ego attachment but it's never necessary to feel committed to any of that.
I honestly believe we're all friends here and based on the amount of creativity that springs forth from every individual, the combined possibilities are endless when we're willing to let go of silly "us and them" memes. |
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rich
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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 22:37
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Saturnia
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 00:48
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I am hearing that some checks written to performers have bounced. Whom can they contact to resolve payment? Will Symbiosis kindly reimburse them for returned check fees and assist with other financial ramifications of the returned checks?
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Saturnia
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bephree
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 01:35
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surely... kevin @ symbiosis events com |
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Mistress of Evil
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 06:23
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@ Saturnia. they can contact me. I am in touch with all of the artists and as far as I know those issues are already resolved or in the process of being resolved. sg09artistmgmt @ gmail.com
Bringing Dreams to Life!
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 14:46
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WHOA artists checks bounced? Like artists as in plural artist?! That is insane. Perhaps there was too much money spent on that bangin deco (which looked really killer from the pictures) but there is NO excuse for check's bouncing for the artists who brought these people to this over priced party. So the ticket cost was uber expensive, there were tons of people there, and checks still bounced? That's nuts.
So i'll stick to trance parties...
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Ascension
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 15:24
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On 2009-09-30 01:07, Omega wrote:
so i wasn't at symbiosis, but had many friends who were, and I had to check this thread out.
as someone who wasn't there, I'm not in a position to really participate in the debate at all, but I'm kinda upset by the apparent animosity that exists between the psy and dubstep communities... cuz i'm a psy dj/producer who also makes/spins dubstep. I just had an freakin awesome weekend at Earthdance in Iowa, and there didn't seem to be any animosity between the dubstep acts/fans and the psy acts/fans - in fact it was quite the opposite, everyone seemed to really get along and all enjoyed each others' company/vibes/music/etc.
if you meet some dicks, or even a whole bunch of dicks, who happen to be into dubstep, please don't just assume that people that like/make/spin dubstep are dicks. Dicks are dicks, cool people are cool people, and what type of music they listen to/spin/produce doesn't matter...
Labeling people strips them of their individual humanity, and this dehumanization allows animosity to turn into hatred - none of us are "dubsteppers" or "psytrancers", we are all utterly unique individuals... Obviously this is hyperbole, but this same sort of tendency is what allows governments to convince their people that some other group of people is "The Enemy" and create a justification for mass murder (war).
and yeah, I want some pics too!! this whole feather/leather thing is new to me (i'm based in Colorado)...
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Fuck yeah! 
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 15:39
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must be a west coast thing (the animosity between psy and dubstep?) because on the southcoast psy and dubstep go hand in hand....
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nod
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 15:42
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On 2009-10-02 15:39, cinderVOMIT wrote:
must be a west coast thing (the animosity between psy and dubstep?) because on the southcoast psy and dubstep go hand in hand....
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that's just me and you buddy
smooches!
-d
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hardkornate
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 15:48
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On 2009-10-02 15:39, cinderVOMIT wrote:
must be a west coast thing (the animosity between psy and dubstep?) because on the southcoast psy and dubstep go hand in hand....
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It sounds more like a high school fashion show than a music scene when people sling around terms like "Leather and Feather."
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Ascension
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 16:19
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GyPsynate
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 17:52
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Psytrance and Dubstep can be found together in CO also. Not always, but there is not squable between them.
CO has a pritty mixed crowd though.
\\\"Invoking the inner dancing buddha with future frequencies from beyond\\\" ~GyPsy
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