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SX3 Freeze Edits/Minimize files
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Meta
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Posted : Mar 12, 2007 01:38
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I was under the impression that using these options was intended to REDUCE project folder size, not double it. Is there a specific order you're supposed to use this in once you've decided you no longer need the ability to undo edits to audio and want to get rid of tiresome temp files?
There wasn't really any specific dialog box options other than "Ok" so I'm not sure what I did wrong. The option to do the Freeze edits isn't there anymore now that I've done it, but my audio and edit folder are still chock full of hundreds of temp files that refer to a single audio part in the song that has already been bounced and replaced. There should only be one file remaining.
Unless I'm misunderstanding the point of this command.
In times past I've just gone in and manually deleted edit files I know aren't being used anymore if I needed to email a big project file, but that is really tedious and there's always a risk of deleting the wrong thing. I was under the impression the freeze edits command was the proper way to do this, and I'm pretty disappointed with the results, so I'm hoping it's just something I'm doing wrong. Any ideas?  http://soundcloud.com/aeon604
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ASTARTICA
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Posted : Mar 12, 2007 13:47
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hi meta,
iīve tryed it now in sx3 (usual i use nuendo) and it work, only 1 audio/ 1 image and the project-file.
the dialog box shows 3 option-
-minimize files
-freeze edits
-delete unused files
(free translation / iīve german v.)
i hit all - and done
an other idea is to create a new project and import the bounced files 
good luck
peace
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UnderTow
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Posted : Mar 12, 2007 17:27
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The point of the Freeze function is to reduce CPU and memory usage. Not to reduce disk usage.
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Meta
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Posted : Mar 13, 2007 09:28
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Well it's not the Cubase "Freeze" command people usually refer to in regards to the track freeze function. Yes, that shuts off the frozen instrument and writes a file that is read to save CPU.
That is a separate command in the Pool window and has a different intended function. I think the reason they use the same term is that you are writing a new file that combines all the old ones. I do think it was a poor choice to use that same term for the ambiguity it causes here though.
And yes Astartica, I used all three of those commands. The Minimize Files command is to remove big empty spaces in long audio files with sporadic bits of audio spread throughout.
Colin and Mubali and I were talking about this with SMS in another thread, but what they were implying does not seem to be working in the way I thought it would.
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Meta
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Posted : Mar 13, 2007 19:07
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Mar 14, 2007 00:22
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Well, I use the Freeze edit, but for optimizing the performance, not for saving hd.... Why?
Cause for me, hd problems is always from unused files... And also I donīt use so much the Offline Process.
And just for the info: the Freeze Edit function is a function that works with the Offline Process(and realise that fade, gain are also offline process)... The main goal of using the freeze is to "bounce" a new audio with all offline process aplied. So u canīt undo any changes after using the Freeze....
Donīt know if I helped in any way... lol
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Meta
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Posted : Mar 14, 2007 00:37
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On 2007-03-14 00:22, SMS wrote:
The main goal of using the freeze is to "bounce" a new audio with all offline process aplied. So u canīt undo any changes after using the Freeze....
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Exactly - that's why it's weird that it keeps all the old edit files. If you can't use them anymore, shouldn't it throw them away?
One of Colin's earlier posts implied this was the case, but not explicitly, and the manual just says it will make undos impossible, but it doesn't specifically say it will remove the old files.
But it seems like it should if it is not using them.
So yeah, I'm trying to determine if I am assuming the wrong thing about this function and if I should just use my same manual method of deleting known obsolete edit files to save space, or if there is a specific order of operations with this command I am missing or a bug or something.
It's quite easy for a project file to pass 1GB with all the edits intact, and there are several people I like to write with via email, so I'm trying to get a set methodology down to avoid tiresome upload times. http://soundcloud.com/aeon604
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Mar 14, 2007 04:04
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If you're worried about it then save the project to a new folder using the option in the File menu. This guarantees (I think) the minimum project folder size. Personally I don't worry about it; I back up onto DVD (eventually lol) and don't mind using two disks for a project if it comes to it. I'd recommend keeping your Audio Pool clean, making sure you delete audio files (rather than just remove them from the Pool) when you're sure you're not going to need them any more. I'm not sure if this will also delete the edit files associated with it, but it does help keep the size down a lot!
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Meta
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Posted : Mar 14, 2007 04:09
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Yeah this is essentially what I've been doing, making a project folder copy and manually deleting the edits and stuff to prep the project for emailing to collaborators.
I was just checking in here to see if I was correctly using the Edit Freeze function, or rather if I was correct in assuming it is supposed to delete edit files automatically after consolidating them into a new file.
When I use the command I see the big new file it creates, and also the ones that it is leaving behind (to my chagrin).
I guess I'll continue with the manual method, to answer your last line there, it does not seem to delete the edit files, I was just curious if this is expected, or a bug, or a mistake I made in order of operations or something I missed.
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Saf
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Posted : Mar 14, 2007 10:55
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I'm super sure when I watched the pointblank tutorials, it had a section which showed you how to reduce the amount of audio files in the pool to exactly what was ever used in the project...
I watched the tutorials on google video(heh), so yesterday I went looking for the video that showed how to do that so I could tell you which one to watch, but I haven't found it yet, and I don't have time to watch them again... 
Rather than just not speak up, I'll try to help a bit..
Look at
http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=cubase+tutorial+%23
this, and then look at tutorials about the pool, and I'm sure you will find how to do it.
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Saf
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Posted : Mar 14, 2007 11:22
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Ok, I just watched them again to see if I could find out what you needed, and I think rather than Freeze, you want to select all your audio in the pool and choose 'Minimize file', which will erase every part of audio file youy aren't using.
This is the video tutorial I was talking about, btw.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3447350073425182298&q=cubase+tutorial+%2314
Maybe this is not what you wanted to know, if so sorry, just trying to help out, I'm probably saying something you already know |
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