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___KhelProject
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Posted : Jul 29, 2001 15:52:09
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Guys I have a little problem...
I have know 4 speakers arround me and the sound is
amazing, But I would like to add surround to my
music...
Can someone explain me please how to add the
surround effect to my music (in Cubase VST 5.0)!!!
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___Trip-
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Posted : Jul 30, 2001 23:14:50
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I don't work with Cubase (w/Logic) but I can explain the little concept for ya.
if you have 4 speakers, I guess u connected 2 of them to outputs1-2 and the other to 3-4
because that's the way you can start getting surround.
I guess that in Cubase' mixer there are the master output channels of output1-2 and 3-4
so let's say a sound goes from output 1 till 4 with pannin... you get a feeling it surrounds you (when you put the 4 speakers around you).
That's it I guess - try ot think of what purposes for the surround and start kickin.
Trip-
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___DCQ
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Posted : Jul 31, 2001 14:22:02
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aaaaahhh.....
well, i think diong this properly could get a little more complex than that
what i reckon you really wanna do is set up your system in DOLBY 5.1
for that, as i understand it, you need a soundcard specially configured for 5.1 outpiut
and aalso an amp setfor it
youll also need an additional rear speaker (the speach channel)
this way you can code your sound in five channels
the only album im aware of this being on so far was the special DVD release of Sting's last album
most films are recordded ion 5.1, and you can only presently get 5.1 recorded on DVD
also americain digital television is broadcasted in 5.1
however, you were talking about stereo, which you should already have, and need only two speakers toget that effect
putting in two speakers to each channel might mean you get sounds coming at you from all around you, bnut two of the pairs of speakers will duplicate whats coming out the other, and if you dont positi0on them correctly around you when doing this, youll get seriouso9unding phasing efefcts
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___KhelProject
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Posted : Jul 31, 2001 16:08:41
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I have sound blaster! Live 5.1 digital.
And my speakers are set to 4.1 position!
I have 4 twiters and one Subwoofer!
My speakers connected like this:
* 2 front speakers to Output-1.
* 2 rare speakers to Output-2.
And the sound blaster has an option to work as
Live DOLBY Digital Surround...
But still how can actually make the sound go
around me from one speaker to the next and complete
the 4 spkeakers (Full surround) In Cubase 5! |
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___DCQ
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Posted : Aug 1, 2001 14:09:27
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ahh, right...
well, i dont know
i know you have to have some specific encoding software, and i knew the basic background stuff (as i wrote above)
but im afraid i dont actually have a cklue how to set it up.
trie the creative website, email one of their technicians for help |
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___bilbobagginz
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Posted : Aug 1, 2001 23:16:28
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project, "surround" is an effect for 2 speakers to sound more "3d"
what u maybe want is:
quadriphonic system.
SB live supports this, but AFAIK Cubase has no support for 3d audio:
it will have to be a real upgrade of the mixer
[4 channels per slider with some joistick :/ ]
and usually pro quality audio cards are stereo, and not quadro.
so you'll have to play with groups in order to achieve this effect:
create 2 groups front, rear
now take 2 stereo audio channels that play the same melody.
now connect them into groups correctly - and u have quadro system, now u need to direct the front group to output 1+2, and the rear 3+4 [with master mixer panel]
note: this is very clumsy, u'll have to record this with automation and repeats, but this is a possible solution.
if u don't understand what i mean ... sorry man.
but generally the impulse tracker 3 studio project is supposed to support quadro fully :-)))
so wait and see.
or contact steinberg and suggest them top add this to cubase 6
i actually think, [if u ask me :) ] quadriphony is the next thing in music.
BOM
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___etherdesign
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Posted : Aug 2, 2001 03:14:25
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Cubase does not yet support surround sound processing, you have to use Steinberg Nuendo, Minnetonka Mx51, Sek'd Samplitude 2496 or Sek'd Sequoia.. These all natively support Dolby Digital 5.1 sound. |
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___IsrAlien
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Posted : Aug 2, 2001 02:31:02
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usually pro quality audio cards are stereo, and not quadro.
so you'll have to play with groups in order to achieve this effect...
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Do you have any idea how the professional movie music makers do it?
I mean, their 5.1/7.1 sound is *SUPERB* and i guess they are not making their own software's and equipment...
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___bilbobagginz
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Posted : Aug 2, 2001 14:09:56
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Do you have any idea how the professional movie music makers do it?
I mean, their 5.1/7.1 sound is *SUPERB* and i guess they are not making their own software's and equipment...
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by "usually" i mean cards within 10.000$
i'm sure, if u have 500.000 $ to spend on the studio, u can setup a full quadro studio.
i mean if you're Sony or Philips, or Hollywood and you own these patents they own ... u can afford it :-)
all this can be also done by custom software, but still somebody has to pay for it.
you can check out what are the prices of 5.1 studios :-))))
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___KhelProject
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Posted : Aug 4, 2001 19:54:24
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If i'm not wrong the ProTools sound card has the
surround option?
But the card is too expensive, maybe I should by
luna?
My mind is set on surround track! |
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___IsrAlien
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Posted : Aug 25, 2001 23:44:45
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Sorry for the late attachment but it has just came to my knowledge that the MOTU 1296 (Mark Of The Unicorn) supports 5.1 digital surround at 96Khz/24-bit (DVD quality)
It has 12 Stereo Inputs and Outputs and if needed can use those to record TWO simultaneous 5.1 mixes!!
Each normal stereo channel is then converted/routed into 1 5.1 surround channel when the bass sub channel included.
(5.1 = 6 inputs out of the 12 available)
What a bomb ass card! + dedicated bombed ass software!
it considered as one of the top of the tops!
and only for 8000 nis
(though i think thats only for the break box,
you need one of MOTU card to plug it into)
so, if you have the dough.... :-) |
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___slavinhauser
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Posted : Aug 27, 2001 13:30:29
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There is a program out there that you can assign sound files to six different speakers(L/R front, L/R surround, center, and subwoofer). It's called Surcode DVD DTS. I have it, but I don't have a surround sound card so I've never used it. |
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___KhelProject
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Posted : Aug 27, 2001 13:32:40
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Is this software takes a lot of place...can you
send it to me? |
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