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xoC
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Posted : May 18, 2012 17:09
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PoM
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Posted : May 18, 2012 20:05
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maybe not notching like this, but about narrow Q it's great to end with a more detailed sound while broadband sometimes can make things sound more "vulgar" when the Q not narrow enough ...
the use of narrow Q to boost/cut precisely some frequencies is a must for me, when listening the overall sound it can increase details but i cut boost way less ,15 db crazy to me, it s more for beeing creative than fixing problems i would eq that much..maybe on really shitty source who know.. i boost very little with narrow q when it hapen and cut not much too..
first thing i do when loading my eq it to set the graph to -6/+6 max for more resolution when draging the bands and it does the tricks for most tasks for me .
i noticed the more range i have to boost or cut with a eq, the more tempted i m to cut / boost more db..with little range like this that is already big,i get the sound like i want it with minimal eq.. also getting a limited range like this +6/-6 really increase the resolution and time to find the sweet spots as there is way more step when using a graph eq |
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Adharaguy
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Posted : May 25, 2012 03:41
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Posted : May 25, 2012 07:38
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Babaluma
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Posted : May 25, 2012 10:37
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PoM
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Posted : May 25, 2012 16:50
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yep great artical thanks !
some stuff that don t work for me, for example on a bassline by boosting and chasing it s hard to know if a harmonic is good or bad.. cause it s no more in relation with the rest of the sound..better find wihtout any boost if there is something annoying just by listening and then you may just cut it, or boost to help to find it precisely.
tiny notch also break the harmonircs realtion ship of a sound..basically you cut one just a little by like 3 or 4 db, it will unmask something else that may be even worst so it need to be tweaked very carrefuly.. these tiny notch can also totally kill the transients..i did some test by just using one broader band insteed of using 2 little notch of 3/5 db on a bassline in the low mids, broaderband have better transients , and it s not subbtle |
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Babaluma
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Posted : May 25, 2012 17:13
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Coming from another angle, in "Mixing With Your Mind", Michael Stavrou believes that you should NEVER do the "boost and twiddle", as it takes your mind away from the effect you are trying to achieve. Instead, he recommends putting the EQ in bypass, listeing to the dry sound and trying to work out what it needs, and then "guessing" which frequency and how much boost/cut need to be applied, and then twisting the knobs BEFORE you take the unit out of bypass. Then listen to if that was what you wanted or not. If it wasn't, then put the unit in bypass again and have another try before flicking it on. This way you are constantly training your mind and ears to get better. I do this all the time, and after a while it becomes second nature.
Honestly, this book is full of nuggets of wisdom, and was the thing that finally got me to be able to really understand compressors, so I highly recommend it to any mix engineer!
http://www.mixingwithyourmind.com/
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PoM
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Posted : May 25, 2012 17:34
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On 2012-05-25 16:50, PoM wrote:
i did some test by just using one broader band insteed of using 2 little notch of 3/5 db on a bassline in the low mids, broaderband have better transients , and it s not subbtle
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thought it could be just the differents frequency curves and not the notchs affectings the transients..but it sounded like it..strange as i was equing in the low mids .
i m not sure if/how narrow Q can affect transients on phase eq |
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Equilizyme
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Posted : May 26, 2012 07:43
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Upavas
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Posted : May 26, 2012 10:01
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dj chichke
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Posted : May 26, 2012 13:35
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Padmapani
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Posted : May 27, 2012 05:08
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On 2012-05-26 13:35, dj chichke wrote:
I used to work like this cut, but not anymore. It's maybe good at start to learn how to listen to frequencies, and learn what you don't like, but basically if you work like this you will start to imagine whistles and cut a lot of harmonies of your sounds, and it will make your track sounds duller.
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+1
i used to eq out a ringing frequency, then notice another ringing (probably introduced by the narrow q?) and another and so on. in the end the whole thing would turn out quite dull and bypassing the eq made it sound a whole lot better. nowadays i finally try to fix these issues in the synth with much better results. i try to just gently roll off the bottom end and maybe some high end or do some push/pull stuff for conflicting frequencies and that's it if i'm not doing something special or working on kick/bass. |
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PoM
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Posted : May 27, 2012 14:16
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the thing is to use it when it s needed and not do it just cause of habit and without any reasons to do it at first .
to clean harsh high end it can be a way that work sometimes for example , cuting with narrow Q a little few of the offending frequency |
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Alien Bug
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Posted : May 27, 2012 15:05
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Babaluma
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Posted : May 27, 2012 16:31
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