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Sundance Gathering > 24/03 to 02/04 - The Total Solar Eclipse Festival
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psy-woof
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Posted : Apr 3, 2006 22:05
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What a let down. Me and over 20 friends travelled from australia for this festival. Marcelo the organiser took 100 reales of each person guaranteeing a 6 day festival. He stated on every flyer that the music would be in a progression starting slower and building up. Everything on the flyer and that was actually said to us ended up being a untrue. the music was flat banging the whole time , there was hardly any shade , no toilets. he had not even organised a permit for the event. Very very let down .We will never be travelling to another wild artist event again. We also spoke to many djs who said they are never coming back to brazil due to the way they were treated. We ended up putting on our own system on the saturday night on the beach .Tical played and rocked it. no problems and rocked until about 3am then had an after party. Marcello also offered 50reales refund but when asked changed his mind . Nothing good to say about Wild Artist management at all , and we will make sure everyone thinking of coming to Brazil knows how Marcello works . would love to hear what people thought of the event.
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 14:44
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Oh my!!
I'm really surprised about that.
The festival had everything to work out.
That's a shame...
Just don't mix up the hole brazilian scene, and organizers, for a one time situation.
Many other festivals in brazil, have a great structure, and no mistakes.
Sad to hear this...
Regards...
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guimais
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 18:10
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On 2006-04-03 22:05, psy-woof wrote:
What a let down. Me and over 20 friends travelled from australia for this festival. Marcelo the organiser took 100 reales of each person guaranteeing a 6 day festival. He stated on every flyer that the music would be in a progression starting slower and building up. Everything on the flyer and that was actually said to us ended up being a untrue. the music was flat banging the whole time , there was hardly any shade , no toilets. he had not even organised a permit for the event. Very very let down .We will never be travelling to another wild artist event again. We also spoke to many djs who said they are never coming back to brazil due to the way they were treated. We ended up putting on our own system on the saturday night on the beach .Tical played and rocked it. no problems and rocked until about 3am then had an after party. Marcello also offered 50reales refund but when asked changed his mind . Nothing good to say about Wild Artist management at all , and we will make sure everyone thinking of coming to Brazil knows how Marcello works . would love to hear what people thought of the event.
Psy-woof
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no surprise there anyways....
  Free your mind.....
Psy.....
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Wild Artists Management
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Posted : Apr 5, 2006 02:37
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Hey Bret(Psy-woof),
First i would like to apologize u cause our event wasn´t all the days that we propose and it wasn´t what u or even me was expecting. But at least u should just say what really happen there. Cause first u said that the music was banging all the time, and we had progressive, electro, minimal and full on, and as we made just one dancefloor, we just had some downbeat on thursday afternoon. And u know that we had some music more slow bpm, cause your friend Tolouse was suposed to play more housy, right?
The place that we made the festival was very dry, in front of the beach and in a site with not so many shades, but we made as much shade as we can in the dancefloor and also in some areas of the festival, some people could find some places under the trees to camp, but i admit that wasn't so many. And even in the shade over there gets like 44o at noon, so even on the shade is very hot. Now what do u mean that there wasn't no toilets? We have 6 of that chemical toilets and 8 showers. What was more than enought for the number of people that we had there. Didn't u see this over there?
Now about the license u are right to be pissed, and i am very sad with this also, this was our biggest mistake and this is why u are mad like this, cause b4 that u were very pleased to be in the party and thanking me so much to make it happen, and saw that i was trying my best to we have some music to celebrate the eclipse and experience the whole process. Anyway, we had the license of the major office, we had the license of the Police(u must see that they passed on the party some times and didn't do anything to stop the party or looked for drugs), but as we were doing the festival near the city, some people from the " hotels association of Pipa" complained about the loud music, and as we didn't had one license from a departament called Idema(that i never heard about it b4), this institution have to give a license b4 every event in that area of Pipa, they go there and check how much decibeis the sound is making and just give the license if it is under than 65db, what it is very low volume. Anyway, as we change the venue of the festival very fast, we didn't have time to discover about this or even take this license in time. This was our biggest mistake, cause we never should change the place from Sibauma, but we thought that would be easier to people come as would be in Pipa, specially at night. And as this hotels association got some signatures trying to stop the party, the judge made a "order" to stop the party on thursday sunset, and they gave us the oportunity to try to take this Idema license on friday, and we woke up very early and went to do everything as they want, but when we arrived on this idema, they already had an order to don't go there get a license for us, cause we should do this b4 start the party. But we felt that had another politcal subjects involved.
Anyway, i belive that the festival was disturbing a few people, but not neighbors, cause the music wasn't so loud around the "Hotel do Amor", veunue of the festival. The thing is a lot of hotel's and club's owners where a bit scared to loose their public for this festival and for that hotel, i belive that cause nobody contact us to put the volume down, and as we didn't have the license of this IDEMA, we got fuck up, and this is why Brett is here complaing, and i understand his point.
But come one, say what really happened, all the artists got payed what they were suposed to, any of them was waiting somebody to pick up in the airport(all the time we had people to pick them up or take to the airport, and we did on time), all of them that we were suposed to pay pousada we did, and we even payed for another ones. Even some artists that didn’t play got payed. The only ones that maybe u hear complained about something was Tikal(that i payed 1000euros to pay on that bar on saturday in a free party, ottherwise he wouldn’t play live) or Matyas the Vj, just cause both of them had another party on saturday and the gig got canceled and they didn't had the play, but this wasn't related with the festival, but any of the artists can say bad things about how we treat them, cause they had everything as we agreed, and any artists, sound system comapny, generator, or anybody involved on the production that was suposed to get payed, can complain about money, cause we payed everybody what we agreed. And EVERYBODY that looked for us to get 50% of the tickects back, it really got the money back, i told u(Brett) to say to your friends if they want the money back look for me, everybody did beside u guys, just u and more 9 of your friends didn't come to us to get the money back, u never asked me and i changed my mind, this also is not true. We gave to ALL the people that looked for us, and over there u seen that were understanding the situation, and i even told one of my friends, how u guys were really nice, trying to make it happen since the begginer and helping so much, and as u didn't looked to get the money back, i thought was just a way to help and thank all the energy that we try to put on this festival, to make a nice part fr all of us, cause we had a few oportunites to cancel everything,a dn don't risk ouselfs and we knew that wouldn't be easy to make it happen, cause of the date or the distance, u saw that just have a few people over there, and we were counting with more people on the weekends. But even 2 weeks ago after we cancel the Sundance Gathering, we received some e-mails of people like u that were traveling from far away and need a festival to celebrate the eclipse, and we worked hard with just a few cash from the party to make a smaller but nice celebration for all of u guys enjoy the experience, we kept a lot of atractions and tried to spend just the necessary to make a really nice party work there, and if this festival wouldn't be stoped, i am sure that your post here would be diferent, cause u seens to be enjoying when u were over there. But it's just sad to arrive here and see u saying things that is not true, as we don't have bathroon, artists were treating well, i changed my mind to give your money back, this is not nice from u. But as i said i undertand that u are mad that the party wasn't as u were expecting. And i would be glad if u find a way to I send the money back to u or give to u b4 u leave Brazil, cause u never looked for us to get your money back. So just contact me by e-mail, and let me know how i can make this deposit for u, even to australia.
We are not in a easy moment, u were there to see how we work hard to make this celebration happen, and we charge very cheap tickects and we offer a good sound system, decoartion, gr8 artists, all the structure that we need to have a celebration for 6 days, just the foood area was needing to get better, cause we were just with Açai, sanduiches and pizza, and on thursday we would start to have more things., but anyway let's be easygoing, and just complain about what really happened, and don't try to make things get worst. Anyway, soon we will make an anouncement explaing everything as it happened. U were the first one that i answered, cause it was a post with a lot of things that wasn't true, and i wasn't expecting this from u. And if u want i can send u the pixs from the toilets, my license from the police and major, and i would like if any artists wasn't treat well over there and we didn't payed what we agreed, PLEASE let us know and can write over here in isra forum what happened.
One thing i garantee to u, we are very honest people, we didnd't make this to make money, and nobody wanted more to see this party rocking than me, so take it easy m8.
Anyway m8, it was very nice to meet u and your friends, u guys have a nice party energy and 4 sure deserve a better party, i din't want any missunderstading with u or your Crew, if u don't want to come in one of our events, i will understand, cause this one was suposed to have 6 days and had just 3, and things didn't flow as were suposed, the energy of this eclipse was very of end of cycle, “destruction”, “death” and things related with the fear energy, I am sure that Turkey party also had a lot of hard moments to make it happened and somethings didn’t happened as was supposed to be, the first day of the party we also had a wind there that destroyed the left side of our decoration, but anyway m8, this doesn’t matter now, I know that we didn’t make our mission as we could, but at leats we tried, so please one more time i ask u to don't make some histories, cause u don't look the kind of person that do this,.. all right? Thanxs for be there and one more time, sorry for what happened, cheers, Marcelo Fernandes(Wild Artists Manager)
P.S; try to ask your self also if u were an organized and u had just a few tickects sold for a very very exepensive party, what would u do? 99% of the organizers would cancel, and would make some story to cancel the party, but we went forward to don’t let some nice people like u over there without a festival to celebrate.
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Airwalk
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:44
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If you had made tickets available around the world and not just in Brazil you would have had 100s more tickets sold well before the event. So many people who did wander down to the site never actualy purchased tickets.
Also if you had put the word out about bein in need of artists before the event you would have had many more DJs actually brin their CDs alon and then you could have varied the line up more.
Gota say Im not hapy about losin $100 (Rial) when Im on a backpackers budet and would probably have preferred that no attempt to put a party on at al.
Anyway had a bal on the boat checkin out the eclipse as well as the free little beach party on the Saturday night (Cheers Psywolf), Pipa is a lovely place and I left with mostly good thoughts.
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dustlove
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Posted : Apr 14, 2006 00:55
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I don´t know the other australians here but completely agree with what they said. The organisers of this festival made every mistake possible.
For a start they were still setting up the dancefloor at 11pm just six hours before the eclipse. No one knew when to come to the dancefloor so a group energy was never created. The time they told people the eclipse would happen was 2 hours wrong, they let people in for free first then kicked them out and tried to make them pay after it was already obvious to everyone that the festival was completely disorganised. No shade and no energy on the dancefloor at all. No permit. I think it would be obvious to anyone that there was a expensive resort next door to the site that had guests who would complain about the noise. I would never go to a Wild Artists event again either. Loved the eclipse and was glad to be at such a beautiful place but the party was a complete mess. |
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J-Hix
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Posted : May 6, 2006 21:05
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On 2006-04-14 00:55, dustlove wrote:
The time they told people the eclipse would happen was 2 hours wrong,
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No Kidding.... hey, I tried to tell them that about a month before the festival, on this site (see page 1 of this thread) as well as the forum of the festival website. I said, "oi mate, yer 'Chronogram' is wrong!"
I went to Pipa FOR the eclipse... got there two days early from Paris via Washington. Got to know some people in town, found a test spot for some good pix, on some nice cliffs.
Then, on the tuesday, I thought I'd pop down to the festival. I hiked for an hour south figuring I would find it. Got stranded after dark in Sibuama along with another dude who had hiked there with two packs! No festival, no Nuthin!
Then, back in pipa (thanks to a dude who gave us a ride in a combi... a few hours later)... and the next morning I go up to check out the eclipse, and the air is filled with totally non energy music.
I heard the cops came to shut it down a day later. Looked unbearably hot there, even at 6 am. How did they cope.
As for the eclipse, ... clouds screwed me on that one, but the moment was nevertheless awesome.
Don't know if it was any of you lot, but dead middle of the eclipse some dude from Oz comes up to me with a beer in each hand and asks, 'dya know where the eclipse is...' actually, it turned out he just wanted my last ciggie. So I gave it to him.
Laters... music is availble in the right circumstances.
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Airwalk
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Posted : May 24, 2006 06:45
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An Aussie dude with a beer in each hand... Never..... |
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